05-06 cdi vs. 07+ bluetec? - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Hogweed · #1 02-27-2016, 09:42 AM

may be looking at an hour plus commute for the new job and want a better car. looking at a couple cdi's in the 8-10k range. saw one 07 bluetec in the same range but i recall some discussion as to the 05-06 being considerably more desirable. input would be appreciated!
thank you in advance
g

Skid Row Joe · #2 02-27-2016, 10:15 AM

07 is the V6 configuration. Without the SBC braking system, which is a plus.

It's almost a 'pick-em' type of decision, but I'd still go with the 05/06 with the inline 6.

engatwork · #3 02-27-2016, 12:06 PM

05/06 are harder to find.

Hogweed · #4 02-27-2016, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by engatwork

05/06 are harder to find.

Would you have a preference?

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

07 is the V6 configuration. Without the SBC braking system, which is a plus.
&It's almost a 'pick-em' type of decision, but I'd still go with the 05/06 with the inline 6.

Not familiar with the SBC (unless it means small block Chevy)....edit: did some reading and it seems to be a decent system until it fails

Wodnek · #5 02-27-2016, 01:21 PM

Buy whatever you can find in the best condition. Both are amazing on power and mileage. Completely different animal to drive.

07 - 7 speed, never seems to rev. does not sound like a diesel. Seems like you are driving a V6 gasser. You push the pedal, and are at the desired speed without any memory of how you got there. without the SBC system that many hate.

05/06 more like what you expect for a diesel in a car. Higher revving, 5 speed trans. a bit easier to self maintain. A bit better mileage. Finding options in the 05/06 is a bit scarce, but the basic options are pretty good.

I had the SBC system go out in my 05. the warranties are gone now in most of these.

I haven't talked to anyone that didn't love either one. no adblue to add in a 211, but go for a 212 diesel and you have to add it, and no spare tire.

Hogweed · #6 02-27-2016, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Wodnek

Buy whatever you can find in the best condition. Both are amazing on power and mileage. Completely different animal to drive.

07 - 7 speed, never seems to rev. does not sound like a diesel. Seems like you are driving a V6 gasser. You push the pedal, and are at the desired speed without any memory of how you got there. without the SBC system that many hate.

05/06 more like what you expect for a diesel in a car. Higher revving, 5 speed trans. a bit easier to self maintain. A bit better mileage. Finding options in the 05/06 is a bit scarce, but the basic options are pretty good.

I had the SBC system go out in my 05. the warranties are gone now in most of these.

I haven't talked to anyone that didn't love either one. no adblue to add in a 211, but go for a 212 diesel and you have to add it, and no spare tire.

awesome! another thing that has come up is a nicely maintained 1999 e300d for around 1/2 of what i'd likely have to part with for a newer one......

Hogweed · #7 03-01-2016, 04:14 PM

if one could find a high-mileage (240k) one for under 5 grand would that be wise to pursue? no records, needs intake sensor but runs/drives fine

Skid Row Joe · #8 03-01-2016, 04:19 PM

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if one could find a high-mileage (240k) one for under 5 grand would that be wise to pursue? no records, needs intake sensor but runs/drives fine

Mr. Hogweed, personally, I'd be willing and would prefer to spend double that for a low mileage (under 100K miles) example.

On a strict budget? Yeah, I'd go for one as you described if I could Carfax it, and see that it hadn't been clipped/severe past wreck. You're the best judge there, Hogweed.

Hogweed · #9 03-01-2016, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Mr. Hogweed, personally, I'd be willing and would prefer to spend double that for a low mileage (under 100K miles) example.

On a strict budget? Yeah, I'd go for one as you described if I could Carfax it, and see that it hadn't been clipped/severe past wreck. You're the best judge there, Hogweed.

mr. hogweed is my dad

thanks for the quick response.....i am on a budget and have found a couple in 7-10k range w/ 150-210k miles.
this one jumped on the radar today and i am used to high-mileage mercs but don't know much about these..

thx again
gregg

edit: i may wait until i actually start the new job and am there for a few months....i think i'd rather wait for a sub 150k one for 7-8 grand

Skid Row Joe · #10 03-01-2016, 05:07 PM

Hogweed, Jr.
Follow (go read) some of the 05/06 CDI past threads - one guy picked one (05/06 CDI) up for like $6K - $7K, with 75K miles on it. Heck if I know how they do that, but some guys find 'em.

I paid a lot more 3 - years ago for my 06 CDI w/59K miles, needing nothing, but I guess deals are out there for the beachcombers!

Hogweed · #11 03-03-2016, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Skid Row Joe

Hogweed, Jr.
Follow (go read) some of the 05/06 CDI past threads - one guy picked one (05/06 CDI) up for like $6K - $7K, with 75K miles on it. Heck if I know how they do that, but some guys find 'em.

I paid a lot more 3 - years ago for my 06 CDI w/59K miles, needing nothing, but I guess deals are out there for the beachcombers!

I guess the question is do I spend 4500 on a nice 99 E300d that I know a little more about or 4600 on the 06 cdi?

gatorblue92 · #12 03-04-2016, 04:53 AM

How many miles are on the 99? If its significantly less it might be the better option.

Hogweed · #13 03-04-2016, 09:05 AM

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How many miles are on the 99? If its significantly less it might be the better option.

166k enthusiast owned (same guy who had the euro wagon i bought and the euro 5 speed).....plus i always wanted one

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I do agree with Joe in the sense that, if you can find one with significantly fewer miles for a few thousand dollars more, that might be the better way to go. It's simply a question of what you're willing and able to afford.

this is the rub....i think i can get a 170k-ish for under $7k but you just cannot eliminate the possibility of an unanticipated costly repair. i'm so used to driving disposable cars (i.e. if something breaks i'm not financially invested enough to care, plus i can part it out)....that's the attraction to the lower priced one: i could likely get muck of the $$ out, even if it did break, by parting it......the horror........the horror

shertex · #14 03-04-2016, 09:17 AM

Especially because of where you live, you need to factor in the cost of rust repair on the W210.

Assuming comparable maintenance histories and condition, if it's a choice between a CDI with 230k and an W210 with 166k for basically the same money I would definitely go for the CDI.

Skid Row Joe · #15 03-04-2016, 01:22 PM

Agree.