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Old 03-01-2015, 06:44 AM
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87 300SDL won't go into 4th?

I recently cleaned some vacuum lines on my 300sdl om603 turbo, most of them are ok except for the one connected to the nipple on the intake manifold which was plugged with oily stuff. I felt the increase in power after cleaning up that line.

Now that it seems like a different car. I'm not sure what the cruising RPM should be. At the moment, my engine revs at around 3200 at 60MPH on the highway. I can feel the engine breaking when I let off the pedal at this speed. Is this normal? or am I missing my 4th gear?

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Old 03-01-2015, 07:18 AM
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How many times does it shift if you take off from a stop and get up to highway speed?
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Old 03-01-2015, 12:18 PM
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Make sure the kick down switch is not depressed. It is under the throttle pedal.
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I have to drive out and count to be sure. I'm aware that these cars start from 2nd if I don't select 2 then D while stopped - or am I wrong? (edit)

For example, when the selector is on D and I'm doing 50mph at around 3000rpm. If I let the pedal off and manually select 3, it should shift down and I should get a higher rpm right?

Also, I checked the fluid level earlier after driving around the neighborhood for 10mins., it's about .3" below the bottom line.

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Old 03-01-2015, 12:23 PM
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Make sure the kick down switch is not depressed. It is under the throttle pedal.
I unplugged the kick down switch yesterday, I tested it with a meter and it seems to be working fine. Although I haven't put it back yet.
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Old 03-01-2015, 01:56 PM
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Are you sure you have second gear start? I know in my 87 300d w/ om603 it is first gear start. But I won't say yours (w126) definitely is first start either cause I don't know.

How fast can you get the car up to? If you're in fourth you should be able to easily hit 75+ and even up to 100 don't think you could do that in 3rd.

Cruising at over 40 on flat ground my car is usually in fourth already, so yes shifting into 3rd at around 50 or so should cause it to downshift noticeably and rev up.

You could try disconnected vacuum completely w/ the kickdown disconnected as well the transmission should shift through all the gears but with very hard shifts.

Maybe it's low fluid, hope so think I read somewhere that fourth is the first gear to go on worn out transmissions. Good luck, what fun these 28 yr old automatics are huh
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Old 03-01-2015, 02:24 PM
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Are you sure you have second gear start? I know in my 87 300d w/ om603 it is first gear start. But I won't say yours (w126) definitely is first start either cause I don't know.

How fast can you get the car up to? If you're in fourth you should be able to easily hit 75+ and even up to 100 don't think you could do that in 3rd.

Cruising at over 40 on flat ground my car is usually in fourth already, so yes shifting into 3rd at around 50 or so should cause it to downshift noticeably and rev up.

You could try disconnected vacuum completely w/ the kickdown disconnected as well the transmission should shift through all the gears but with very hard shifts.

Maybe it's low fluid, hope so think I read somewhere that fourth is the first gear to go on worn out transmissions. Good luck, what fun these 28 yr old automatics are huh
I took it out for a spin, I think it starts in 1st too. I only noticed 2 shifts, so I think I'm missing the 4th. My revs are 2900 at 50mph and around 3200 at 60mph.

My kickdown is disconnected at the moment. Which vacuum lines should I disconnect? Is it the single line that went to the transmission?

I will have to check the fluid again, it's quite tricky with this car. The tranny was rebuilt about 1 1/2 years ago before I got it from the PO so it's quite young.
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Old 03-01-2015, 02:38 PM
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Yes the single line going to the transmission, be sure to cap it somehow so it's not open to the air. Also you won't want to drive too long without any vacuum, the shifts will be very uncomfortable.
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And by cap I mean on the vacuum supply side, so it's not leaking vacuum out.
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Old 03-01-2015, 02:41 PM
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Or sucking air in haha you get the picture
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Old 03-02-2015, 02:14 AM
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Thanks for the info.

I disconnected the vacuum but I still don't get the 4th gear.

There is a kick down solenoid located on the transmission itself, if this is stuck, will it allow me to move up to 3rd gear but not 4th?
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Old 03-02-2015, 04:29 AM
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Does anyone have the numbers with regard to the speed vs. rpm on their 87 300SDL?
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For my 300SDL at 70 MPH, the engine is at 3000 RPM. Sure sounds like you aren't getting 4th gear.
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Agree with MI300SDL
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