Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-11-2021, 01:55 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 635
W123 300D NA: Fuel system rebuild = power!!

Just installed Greazzer rebuilt injectors with Monark 261 nozzles (increased pressure setting by 150 psi vs. the injectors I supplied), rebuilt lift pump and OFV spring.

While these injectors we're not in as bad a shape despite the 140K odometer reading, the difference is much more noticeable in the W123 300D (vs the W115 240d from last year). Power through the rev range has shot up. Car feels like it has got an extra 10-15 bhp - I can't prove it ofcourse but it revs with much more ferocity than before. Unlike the W115 which idled quieter, revved in a more refined manner and became more economical with little difference in power, initial improvements with the W123 are primarily a substantial increase in diesel power and a quieter low rpm behavior. Economy will be measured.

All in all, highly recommend replacing the OFV spring, rebuilding lift pump and injectors with German made parts.

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-14-2021, 04:52 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 278
OFV?

Hmm, I want to try all this on my current NA OM603 project car.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-14-2021, 12:29 PM
Shern's Avatar
Semi-registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,814
150psi is pretty high, enough to affect the timing significantly, I’d guess.
What was your reasoning there?
__________________
1981 240D 4sp manual. Ivory White.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-16-2021, 12:04 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 635
Not sure why they were set noticeably lower at 1550 psi (not by me) or if they had just worn down but Greazzer set them to 1700 psi as part of his rebuild, which I believe is on the higher end of the normal spectrum for a NA engine.

The increase in acceleration is mind boggling for the ol' girl.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-16-2021, 03:02 PM
Shern's Avatar
Semi-registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,814
Quote:
Originally Posted by Screwdriva View Post
Not sure why they were set noticeably lower at 1550 psi (not by me) or if they had just worn down but Greazzer set them to 1700 psi as part of his rebuild, which I believe is on the higher end of the normal spectrum for a NA engine.

The increase in acceleration is mind boggling for the ol' girl.
Sorry, got a little confused by your post. 150psi, would mean very little.
I thought you may have been referring to bars, as in, 115 bar for naturally aspirated, vs 135 bar for turbo.

1700 psi makes a bit more sense.
__________________
1981 240D 4sp manual. Ivory White.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-16-2021, 05:44 PM
tdoublenastywitit's Avatar
Rule #1, don't freak out.
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 897
with the money and time we spend wasting trying to make the om617 faster with all the little pump adjustments and upgrades for a minuscule difference is a waste IMO

The only real solution is a super pump
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-17-2021, 10:33 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 395
Quote:
Originally Posted by Screwdriva View Post
Not sure why they were set noticeably lower at 1550 psi (not by me) or if they had just worn down but Greazzer set them to 1700 psi as part of his rebuild, which I believe is on the higher end of the normal spectrum for a NA engine.

The increase in acceleration is mind boggling for the ol' girl.
Same story, had all my injectors at 115 bar. Cleaned them, rebalanced at 135 bar for turbo and car seems more lively. The old nozzles still got a nice pattern, and they are Bosch.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-18-2021, 05:42 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: London, United Kingdom
Posts: 635
Quote:
Originally Posted by tdoublenastywitit View Post
with the money and time we spend wasting trying to make the om617 faster with all the little pump adjustments and upgrades for a minuscule difference is a waste IMO
You'd be correct if I was trying to achieve more power vs. get my cars to fully renewed, original condition. I set out to achieve this because I believe Mercedes engineers knew what they were doing in the 70's more than they have in any other decade since.

The challenge for folks who think like me is finding the best possible replacement parts available anywhere. This post should highlight why I chose Greazzer's products/ service to achieve this.


Last edited by Screwdriva; 02-19-2021 at 10:08 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:36 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page