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82' 300D (automatic) Suddenly No Gears
Good Morning,
I just go into my 82' 300D (301k miles), and it won't change gear position at all. I have tried every gear position, but it stays in park or neutral. No sign of life at all, no clunking or moving. I did the fluid and filter about 14k miles ago, and it's always shifted ok. A tiny bit jerky when cold, but perfect after a few minutes. Very occassionally, it would take a few seconds to shift from P to D when cold. It's my daily driver, and there have been no signs of impending failure. I always thought the transmission pump was a little bit noisy in this car, but a mechanic friend of mine heard it last year and wasn't concered. Where do I start? Fluid looks ok. I'm hoping it's a linkage issue? Thank you. |
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If you suddenly have no gears at all, and the shifter linkage has not come loose, about the only thing that could mean is your front pump is bad. I have also seen the ears shear off them when the transmission is reinstalled incorrectly. It might work for a while but eventually shears off.
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Although you'd probably feel something, it could be that the output flange came loose on the end of the transmission.
Good luck!!!
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"Rudeness is a weak man's imitation of strength" - Eric Hoffer |
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If not, do you know of any good tests for the pump? |
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Just checked, and driveline looks good.
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Have the trans valve body cleaned and replace fluid and filter.
Worst case scenario is that your clutches are bad,but sudden onset may just be debri blocking the valve...
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1979 300D 220 K miles 1995 C280 109 K miles 1992 Cadillac Eldorado Touring Coupe 57K miles SOLD ******************** 1979 240D 140Kmiles (bought for parents) ![]() SAN FRANCISCO/(*San Diego) 1989 300SE 148 K miles *SOLD |
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Have heard of TransX being good for cleaning valve body components. Probably cannot hurt because if it doesn't work it has to come apart anyway or be replaced.
Good luck!!!
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"Rudeness is a weak man's imitation of strength" - Eric Hoffer |
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Now there's a thought. That actually makes a lot of sense. I was stumped as to why the car would suddenly go from shifting nicely to not shifting at all. I will investigate, thank you.
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Good idea.. do you think it will do a decent job cleaning if it's not going into gear?
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We have the same concern about its effectiveness in this situation but id still try and maybe give it a little extra time.
Good luck!!!
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"Rudeness is a weak man's imitation of strength" - Eric Hoffer |
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BG makes Trans Clean. Ive never used it but anything I have used from BG has been excellent. It can be ordered online.
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"Rudeness is a weak man's imitation of strength" - Eric Hoffer |
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Drain it and see what comes out and drop the pan and see what is in the bottom.
When I had shift issues changing the filter and fluid helped for a while. Part of the issue sounds like a classic in B2 piston or band failure but normally when that happens you are supposed to have reverse. I don't know if the B2 band breaks if you can still get reverse. Way in the past people have had springs break inside of the valve body.
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Update on this: finally found the time to check pressures and found the issue: main/working pressure is supposed to be 212 - 239 PSI. Mine is at 62psi at idle, when I add throttle (any amount) it only bumps up to 67psi.
So, I assume the pump has failed. At this point, I'll most likely just go with a rebuilt unit from Sun Valley. Just need to decide if I want to attempt the R&R myself or not.. |
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does the pressure also depend on vacuum?? if so check your vac lines first!!
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1979 300D 220 K miles 1995 C280 109 K miles 1992 Cadillac Eldorado Touring Coupe 57K miles SOLD ******************** 1979 240D 140Kmiles (bought for parents) ![]() SAN FRANCISCO/(*San Diego) 1989 300SE 148 K miles *SOLD |
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I did discover a new idea, however: I may need to look at my "working pressure control valve" in the valve body. Does anyone know, if an issue with that valve would cause my symptoms? |
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