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Old 02-20-2024, 07:15 PM
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1984 300D turbo diesel: lower control arm ball joint C-press question.

I'm thinking of purchasing this C-press kit. Do you think it will work for installing the lower control arm ball joints for the 1984 300D turbo?


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Old 02-23-2024, 10:29 AM
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I bought a similar-looking C-press at Harbor Freight Tools, perhaps from the same factory. Bought after using the free-rental one at Autozone since saw it on sale at HF and didn't want to repeat the 2 drives to AZ next time. I think I used the HF one, but forget since I owned two 300D's at the time so forget what I did to which (I do keep log books). Sold the 1984, so no more confusion.

When pressing in the new ball-joint with the AZ press, I could see the frame bending, which was scary, though I don't think it was permanently distorted. Later, I read Rollguy's trick of "tighten, tap loading screw end with big hammer, repeat". It seemed the new ball-joint was slightly larger diameter than OE. Perhaps intentional so it won't be loose in the bore. In contrast, it was fairly easy to remove the OE lower ball-joints - just a large socket and a big hammer. Place the end of the spindle (upside down) on concrete, sitting on plywood or scrap brake pad. Helping hands who trust you to not bash them with the hammer is good. I tossed the rubber boots that came with the balljoint and used polyurethane boots instead (Energy Suspension, from kit for my 1965 Dodge Dart).

I've seen photos of a special adapter to use a hydraulic press, which should be easier. A thick steel tube with an oblong side hole for the spindle arm to stick out. If a shop replaces balljoints regularly, might be worth fabbing one (or buy if can find).
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Old 02-24-2024, 12:16 AM
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OK. The press will not remove the old ball joint. There is only a cylindrical piece of metal to use as a punch to hammer on to remove it from the steering knuckle. Heat with a propane torch in that area of the steering knuckle can be helpful.

As long as the hole on the autozone free rental press is not distorted or otherwise buggered up you can use it and not have to buy one.

That being said I have 2 C-presses one for harbor freight and one from Pitbull. They both work but are not as good as the OTC one that autozone used to rent. But that was many years back now.

None of the tubes that came with the kits worked for me.

I did not do this but wished that I had. At the top of the picture, you see a red arow pointing to between the top of the ball joint and between the C-clamp. What should have been between that is a thick steel washer. I was too lazy to buy the washer I needed and grind out the inside of the hole in the washer so it would slide over the ball joint shaft. As a result of being lazy it was more trouble to get the ball joint installed.

The yellow arrow points to an adapter from the kit. I used that with the cupped side facing the bottom of the ball joint incase as I was pressing in the ball joint it protruded from the bottom of the steering knuckle.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/diesel-discussion/79893d1271818536-ball-joint-nightmare-chapter-2-bj-c-press-3-x.jpg

I added a pipe coupling on the bottom to make sure the ball joint could be pushed out below the surface of the bottom of the steering knuckle of that was needed. However you may have a tube in the kit for that purpose.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/attachments/diesel-discussion/79894d1271818575-ball-joint-nightmare-chapter-2-bj-c-press-4-x.jpg

Note the C-presses are wobbly in the threaded aera. Some are tighter than others but the is still a lot of clearance in that area.
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Old 02-25-2024, 01:29 PM
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I have the press tube, and tricks to get the old ball join out easy.

Also have several spring compressor kits if needed.

F.Y.I. the ball joint isn’t in the lower control arm, it is in he spindle assembly. For anybody reading this that isn’t aware.
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Old 02-26-2024, 12:08 PM
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This is the method I am thinking of using to remove the ball joint.


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Old 02-28-2024, 09:32 PM
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This is the method I am thinking of using to remove the ball joint.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwdCLLVUk50
Your choice. A lot of persons including myself don't have a cutting torch. I used a propane torch to heat up the outer parts of the joint and put the arm into a well mounted large vice and used a large socket and like a 2-pound hammer beat it out.

Anyway, there is methods in the repair links.
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Here is a couple good threads on BJ R&R.

Red neck BJ R&R

https://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/321615-red-neck-lower-ball-joint-removal.html

Write up on Ball Joints etc....

https://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/179284-write-up-ball-joints-lower-control-arm-bushings-tool-review-pics.html

The official MB Ball Joint press in $299 - $600 depending who sells it.
Pelican Parts is one of the highest. came across a couple sites selling them pretty cheap.

https://biofreear.live/product_details/99217010.html

https://biofreear.live/product_details/99217005.html

https://biofreear.live/shopping_cart

Can`t find a price on this one, I bought it 10 yrs ago for $99

https://kinetikautotools.com/products/mercedes-benz-w213-w126-w220-ball-joint-installer-tool

Search on Google for the part #`s and they come up fairly reasonable once in a while.


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