#2 Diesel vs. Home heating oil... - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

michakaveli · #16 02-11-2003, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Randall Kress
If your worried about your injectors, add a bottle of DFC, otherwise, buy premium diesels....

Stanadyne's All Season Additive is plenty sufficient?

rdanz · #17 02-11-2003, 03:29 PM

Home heating oil lubricates better than diesel fuel and will probably give you better milage and you engine will last longer.
The only problem is it smells a little and is against the LAW.

#18 02-11-2003, 05:30 PM

over the last 30 some years have been in the petroleum business, will try to keep this short, diesel fuel and heating fuel is one in the same, die is added to non road use at the loading rack, state and federal tax is added at rack purchase, it hasnt alway been the same, mandate on contaminates makes it the same basically, flo improver, injector additive adds to the cost, and if ya get caught using non road in your veh. get you wallet out and ready to pay...jack now retired from this gov. inv. business

michakaveli · #19 02-11-2003, 05:45 PM

I'm assuming that heating oil sold in the Northeast comes standard with an anti-gel additive?

Ken300D · #20 02-11-2003, 05:54 PM

The fine in VA is $2000 first offense. Not that I know personally - but I looked it up on the DMV website.

Also, be careful when you are adding kerosene that you buy from your local station. It is meant to be used for heating and it probably has the red dye. If you were to use it for a "thinner" in your car it would show up on a roadside test with the dye......

Ken300D

rwthomas1 · #21 02-11-2003, 06:57 PM

Michakaveli,
Stanadyne Performance Formula with the blue label. IMHO the very best you can get. RT

michakaveli · #22 02-11-2003, 07:29 PM

Actually, just got my shipment of the little blue bottles a week ago :-)

http://www.dieselpage.com/add1.htm

DieselCJ · #23 11-21-2005, 10:44 PM

Nice thread, any more insight?

BTW, I know a guy that ran a 1997 E300 off home heating oil for years, also runs a standby generator.

SumDude · #24 11-22-2005, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Kress

If your worried about your injectors, add a bottle of DFC, otherwise, buy premium diesels....

I've never heard of premium diesel just regular diesel #2

t walgamuth · #25 11-22-2005, 05:55 AM

the heating oil is equal to #1 diesel.

i found 2500 gallons in the basement tank (thought to be empty) in my office building. i sold it to a friend who operates a lot of heavy equipment after proving it was ok by running it in my 90 350sdl. it will work fine.

illegal of course for road use.

oh yeah it was probably at least 40 years old.

tom w

DieselJim · #26 11-22-2005, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by michakaveli

Thank You guys for the informative responses.

As a newbie to diesel, what is the significance of sulphur within the fuel? I've taken a few chemistry classes in college so if anyone has more a a molecular exxplantion I'll be glad to hear it. Is sulphur the primary component with results in the visible soot and carbon buildup in our intakes?

What other soluble solutions make up diesel fuel?

Sulphur creates sulphur dioxide which is a nasty little pollutant. Carbon and soot comes from carbon burning, soot must also have an impurity component because they keep trying to reduce the soot content as well. Diesel is mostly hydro carbons, which are hydrogen, carbon and other elements in a chain. Hydrogen and carbon burn to give you the energy. Sulphur is a useful lubricant. Not quite as nice as graphite(carbon) but it should have similar properties.

Soft metals, powders like sulphur make good lubricants for things like injectors. I assume sulphur is naturally occuring since it is an element in the earth's crust. Removing it takes additional chemistry.

92497pmu · #27 11-22-2005, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by michakaveli

from another forum post someone had replied that the heating oil is one step below diesel for cleanliness. Deterioration of the injection pump in my '97 is my main concern.

If I may ask, what anti-gel product was used in the external large tank.

michavelli

Few of us know how "clean" HHO from a delivery truck would be once delivered. However I definitely would recommend using a spin-on filter at your bulk tank before pumping into your car.
Lubrication and Anti-gel: dump in the proper ratio of Howes, Power Service or Standyne? (sp?) into your bulk tank.

My uncle has run a setup like this for his off road construction equipment.
He has 1973 and 1978 CAT 920 loaders with 13k and 18k hours ... each has ORIGINAL injector pumps and have never been rebuilt. 1 motor was overhauled (bad rings i think) but IPs are in flawless working order.
We believe this is due to the "double filtering" --> 1st at the bulk tank, 2nd on the machine

I would probably be running HHO as well if I had the space as well.
Best of luck and watch out for for the law-dawgs

PMU

bullwinkle · #28 11-22-2005, 11:13 AM

What about off road fuel? Is it mostly identical in composition to HHO?

92497pmu · #29 11-26-2005, 01:50 PM

HHO = off road diesel
All this stuff is the "same", HHO and off-road just have pigment splashed in at the mix tank before delivery.

disclaimer
"same" --> sulfer, additives may be a little different, but add some Howes or Power Service and your Benz won't know the difference

PMU

PatrickW · #30 11-26-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken300D

Also, be careful when you are adding kerosene that you buy from your local station. It is meant to be used for heating and it probably has the red dye. If you were to use it for a "thinner" in your car it would show up on a roadside test with the dye......

The original Owner's Manual for my 240D recommends adding kerosene to #2 diesel in the winter to avoid jelling.

I wonder what a judge would say if a defendant said, "...but your Honor, it says to do that right here in the owner's manual..."

-Patrick