EBAY
 

Earlier this week there was a SEL with 87K on the odo --Oddly enought one of the pic's showed the car with a 200K grill badge.

watch out, that 91 350SDL on eBay has the bad 3.5L engine that bends rods... if the cylinders are still OK, you can replace the old weak rods with new improved ones (~$1500 in parts) and it will be fine. Or drive it until it tears up the walls and install a rebuilt crate motor for $6k. :) :)

That panel has to come off to replace the bulb at the head of the fiber optic cables which illuminate the switches above the AC controls. I suppose you can do it without pulling the AC controls but you'd have had to have done it a few times before.

Sixto
91 300SE
87 300SDL
83 300SD

only 3 hours to go and it's up to 5500 bux.....
:rolleyes:

EDGE...
 

yes, edge, there is an Ebay santa. I got my 85 300sd on ebay and it is a gem. bought it from a partime MD dealer for $4800. It will hit 108 mph, had brand new seats and makes the Cape Cod / OHIO trip a joy, though it doesn't hold the trip record.

I did the 796 mile trip in 10 hours, 48 mins in my 81 300TD last week. ((and that was with 3 stops)) I bought the wagon on Ebay also, but its not now, the car I bought then for $305. It now has a junkyard motor from a 85 SD and a rebuilt tranny and absolutely stunned me this winter the way it handles the snow. It's going on Ebay in a few days..Divorce forces sale, ya know.

Only the Rolling Stones withstand death, taxes and divorce. YCAGWYW, ya know.

seafood54...but if ya try sometimes, ya get watcha need!

Is that an annual trip for you? Where on the Cape?

EDGE...
 

you figured it out...

my plate only says CAGWYW because there are only 6 places available. no..not an annual trip...for 6 months, last year, I was doing one week in OH and one on the Cape, which meant doing the 800 miles once a week. As the time for the move draws nearer, it will happen again, though it will happen shuttling vans there, dragging MB's behind them.

BTW...CAGWYW on the SD is a message to my Not-Yet-Ex-wife.
............Can't tell you the joy that car has given me.
............Not by my short and curlies, sweetheart.

RS, soundtrack of my life

looks like the auction ended at $7100... if we can believe it

maybe the 'winner' will need a few xtra dollars for some speedy dry to soak up the oil leaks:eek: if the guy's feedback is anything to go by:rolleyes:

so who wants to be the one to contact the "winner" - more like loser, in this case - and give them the URL to this thread? Hmmm? Any takers? Might save the person the trouble of traveling long distances to look at a steaming POS.

:D :D

Private
 

Private Auction - we may never know!

From a buyer who filed a complaint: on that guy:
 

Avoidence of these guys are your best bet...

I started recording the info early in the deal..

My experience with dealing with the Ebayer
Turbo_Fifty…

It started normal and went downhill from there….

11-26-02 Won the 1995 Olds with high bid of $2500.00

How could anything possibly be bad with this posted
right on the listing?
____________________________________________________

The Promise:

We are a listing company for several Auto dealerships
in our area. Our policy is to act as an advocate for
you, the consumer. We promise to do our very best to
ensure only the highest quality vehicles are offered
for auction. With this in mind, Bid with Confidence,
we won't let you down!

The Description:

This one won't last long! This sure is a beauty. You
can't go wrong with this 1995 OLDSMOBILE 88 ROYALE.
Everything is simply perfect in the car, with dual air

bags and ABS brakes you couldn't be safer. With power
everything, leather seats and ice-cold air you
couldn't be more comfortable. And with the current NJ
inspection, low miles and no reserve you can't
possibly afford to miss it! Sorry, only one person can
have this.

Year 1995 Body Style: SEDAN 4 DR Engine: 3.8L V6 MFI
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: FRONT WHEEL DRIVE Carburetion: FUEL
INJECTED Cylinders: 6
Air Conditioning, Power Steering, Power Windows, Power

Door Locks, Tilt Wheel
Cruise Control, AM/FM Stereo Cassette, Dual Front Air
Bags, ABS (4-Wheel)
Leather, Power Seat, Make OLDSMOBILE, Model 88 ROYALE

Colors Gray / Gray, Mileage 98,153 VIN
1G3HN52K1SH316060
_______________________________________________________
11-27-02 -- AM
Setup contact to arrange payment to Turbo_fifty.
First contact was with Howie and we setup the payment
for my credit card… $2500.00(car) + $180.00(paperwork)
+ $50.00(credit card charge) total $2730.00

11-27-02 --PM
Called to confirm that my credit card charge went
through and talked to Michael. He said that they were
Having problems with their credit card machine and
that he would call me back when it went through.
Mike never called me back…. I waited at work an extra
hour for the call and then called Micheal
Back… At that time he stated, “Oh, that went through
hours ago, and that the paperwork for the
Title will be sent out”…… (This was the first sign. I
started to record everything.)

11-28-02 to 12-02…
I checked my credit card account and seen that the
charge was on my credit card but it was
Only for $2680.00.I waited patiently for the
paperwork, diligently checking the mailbox and being
disappointed Every day that it did not arrive….

12-02-02 - 7:29 AM I sent an E-mail to
turbo_fifty informing them that I had not received
the paperwork on the Car and received no response.

12-03-02 - 6:45 AM
Re-sent the same e-mail as the day before…..

12-03-02 - 7:04 AM
Received an e-mail from turbo_fifty with phone
numbers asking me to call them..

12-03-02 10:10 AM
I called them and did get in contact with Michael. I
told Michael that I had not received the paperwork yet
and Michael went to get his uncle Howie. Michael came
back and told me that Howie would call me
Back in five minutes. I said OK..
No one ever called back..

(At this time I activated the free limited warranty
or I would lose the coverage)

12-04-02 9:15 AM
Called Turbo_fifty again to try to find out why I
haven’t received the paperwork and why nobody was
Returning my calls. Talked to Howie and he told me
that my credit card payment was frozen. He then
Told me that their credit card machine was not working
so they went next door to put the charge on
E. Penn Auto Repairs credit card machine. This
apparently caused my funds to be frozen. (This was the
First I had heard of this since I was told the charge
went thru on 11-27). (7 days)

Howie and I discussed the Situation I was told that
they had tried everything to release my money but
couldn’t get it released. Howie Then gave me all the
information concerning where my funds were tied up and
asked If I would contact The company to free up my
money. I had plenty of info and started to make phone
calls but when I was asked what my name was and told
PNC merchant Services who I was, they abruptly
stated that they could not do anything for me since
this was not my account we were discussing and hung up
on me.

After this, I again contacted Howie and he told me
that if I wanted I could cancel the deal or wire
Them the money because they would not release the car
without it being paid for.. I agreed to
Wire them the money.

12-04-02 10:30 AM
The secretary called me and gave me the information
for their bank to wire the money. I then contacted
My credit union and wired the money off to C & R Auto
Solutions bank. Also at this time I filed a dispute
Over the $2680.00 on my credit card….. (Gee, I have
paid 2 times to try to get this deal going.)

12-5-02
Got home from work to find the paper work in my
mailbox for the car and signed off on it when
I realized that it had some different letters in the
VIN…

12-06-02 08:30 AM
Called Howie and got the answering machine and left a
message about the VIN being wrong.

12-06-02 10:45
Called Howie again since I had not gotten a response
to my message. I discussed the situation
With the secretary and she found Howie. Howie
concluded all I had to do is change the VIN to
the proper one and initial it and he would do the same
when he received it. I agreed and sent
the paperwork back..

From 12-06 to 12-17 I dealt with the transporters..
(This is not on Howie). First time the
transporters tried to pick up the car it would have
been after C&R was closed and they were
told that they do not do after hours pickups. Then
Ice storms and delays etc, etc, etc,

12-17-02 7:30 to 9:00 PM
The car was delivered and the balance of the shipping
was paid.. During unloading since the car
Was on the upper tier the driver let me inspect the
underneath of the car… The engine compartment
back to the catalytic converter was bathed in oil. So
much so that the transporter climbed up on his
truck to inspect the roof of his cab.. it also had
fresh oil all over it, the transporter was not happy
about it..

12-18-02 4:00 PM
Managed to get the vehicle in my garage and start to
look the car over after work. Here is what I found
on my initial inspection:

Bald Tires(steel belts sticking out), broken gas cap,
smashed hub cap, heater blower not working, broken
License plate bracket, leather drivers seat either
vinyl stained or painted over, moisture in the oil
filler Cap, almost every gasket on the engine leaking
oil,(head gaskets, valve cover gaskets, oil pan
gasket, Intake manifold gaskets), windshield wipers
ripped andtorn, missing interior components and brakes
that needed to be pumped up to work…

12-19-02 08:30 PM
Called Howie and talked to him.. Explained all these
problems and the fact that it was evident
That there was major work done on this vehicle since
under the hood some items had not been reassembled
Properly and tightened down, the engine compartment
and fenders were full of greasy handprints and Howie
said he knew nothing about It in a nice way and
then gave me the phone number to Red Cap Motors to
call and discuss this with Paul Jr. He also said that
the heater blower motor fix was on him and to have it
fixed and fax him the bill and try to do it
economically.

12-20-02 8:20 AM
Called Red Cap Motors and asked to talk to Paul Jr, He
got on the line and were shortly thereafter
Cut-off. I called back and the secretary answered and
she said that Paul Jr. was unavailable and I
Discussed the condition of the car with her. (She was
the only one so far that sounded sincere when
She said that she was very concerned about it and she
would call Howie and Michael and would
Have one of them call me back..

12-20-02 PM
Since I had not received a call from Howie or Michael
I decided to call Red Cap motors again
And try to talk to Paul Jr. He was not in so I was
transferred to Paul Sr. After our discussion
Paul Sr. stated that these problems were something
that Howie and Michael should handle and that they
will take Care of it. At this point I realized that
neither Co. was checking these cars before they sell
them.

.....cont'd

cont'd...
 

12-20 to 12-26
I purchase a blower motor for the vehicle and install
it myself. At this time I found that
The blower motor speed selector had one speed that did
not function and that the rear window
Defroster only had 5 of the 13 defroster lines that
worked. I also changed the oil and detailed
the engine compartment to try to clean up all the oil.

I then had 4 new tires put on, (there was no hubcap
tool in the trunk so we have to use a hammer and
chisel to get the mounting screws to release and then
remove the hubcaps). The mechanic says
that the tires should never been on a car because the
wear bars are worn off and the steel belts
were sticking out of the tires. I then ask the
mechanic at the station to look at the oil leaks.
He says that there was an awful lot of oil under the
car and that it was leaking way to much
And we should change out the oil sending unit to
start eliminating leaks. Also the oil was
leaking for so long and so much that it had ruined
one of the rubber pieces on a motor mount and
that should be replaced. We cleaned the oily areas,
tightened the oil pan and transmission pan bolts
and then set up an appointment to change the oil
sending unit. During this period of time is when
I discovered that the car was leaking ½ quart of oil
per tank of gas… It is everywhere!

12-26-02 09:42 AM
Sent an E-mail letting Turbo_fifty know that I had
fixed the blower motor and also informed
them of all the other findings. I expressed the fact
that I thought that this had now regressed
from a decent deal to me feeling like a victim of a
bad deal.. I then requested them to
contact me and see if we could work things out to make
this a square deal for both parties.

I received absolutely no response to my e-mails
regarding these questions..



12-30-02 9:00AM
Called Turbo_fifty and got the fax number from the
secretary to fax the bill for the new blower.
I then faxed the copy of the bill to them…
I called back and was told by the secretary that it
came in and she would give it to Howie.

12-30 to 01-07 Waiting for a check from Howie………

01-07-03 2:30PM
Sent an e-mail to Turbo_fifty inquiring about the
repayment of the blower motor and
The other questions I had on the condition of the car
requesting them to please call me.
No response…

01-08-03 7:30 AM
Sent another e-mail to Turbo_fifty asking for a
response from them.
No response

01-09-03 7:30 AM
Re-sent previous e-mail again…

01-09-03 10:00 AM
Received an e-mail from Turbo_fifty telling me to call
Howie or Michael between 9 and 5 for info.

01-09-03 1:40PM
I called and finally got in touch with Micheal and
discussed with him the repayment of
the blower motor repair and he said he would look for
the fax and talk to Howie about
it and would call me right back..

01-09-03 2:20PM
Michael called me back and said that he would handle
the check and that he would send it out
ASAP.

01-09 to 01- 13
I waited and received the check for the blower motor
13 days after faxing the bill.

01-13 03 09:00 AM
I sent Howie and Michael a e-mail detailing the
existing problems with this car again, asking them
To please take 10 minutes of their time and look at
the situation.. I also added the promise to their
customers from the web page to help encourage them to
do the right thing and respond.

01-13-03 11:17 AM
I receive an e-mail telling me to call Howie or
Michael

01-13-04 1:30 PM
I called and talked to Michael and asked if he had
received my e-mail on the existing problems with the
Car. He stated that he did and that he printed it out,
it was sitting on his desk and Howie and
He were going to discuss it.

01-15-03 07:55 AM
Received this e-mail from turbo_fifty..

1. Vehicles sold for $2500.00 or less are sold AS-IS.
2. Vehicles over 10 years (1993 and older) are sold
AS-IS.
3. Vehicles with over 125,000 miles are sold AS-IS.


After this I sent one more e-mail appealing to them to
at least repair the Rear window defroster and
Then faxed them 3 quotes on the repair… They simply
re-sent the same previous e-mail..

Since there was only 2 days left of the 60 allotted by

Ebay to file a fraud complaint I went ahead
And did that… I also left negative feedback… Out of
all this contact, they made 2 phone calls.
That was the entire effort on their part after they
were paid…

It took a month to get the first payment credited back
to my credit card.

I also am planning on filing a complaint with the PA
consumer Protection, the Wi. Consumer
Protection and the Federal internet fraud consumer
protedtion…

I will be filing these complaints against Turbo_fifty
and Red Cap Motors where the car
Came from…

If you want the links to the sites to file these types

of complaints I will e-mail them to you..

I shoulda known better than to buy a vehicle from
someone who threatens you with bad
Feedback on the car site page…

Turbo_fiftys feedback policy
.
Any feedback given to us will be returned in like kind

If you are trying to build your ebay feedback rating,
you are guaranteed to receive what you get..

Don’t get me wrong… I like the way the car handles,
drives, rides and looks. I just don’t
Like being lied to and screwed with all the other
problems they did not disclose and covered up with
the wonderful description of the vehicle.

I call it Fraud and so do many others, or they
wouldn't have made laws about it.

Its 3 months since I bought this car and I have
changed the valve cover gaskets, serviced the
transmission and installed the new oil sending unit...
The engine is still leaking oil very badly... I have
put over $700.00 dollars into this car since I bought
it..

02-19-03
Also as of today my credit card provider has told
me that the return charge on my credit card is still
being held and E.Penn auto won't release it back..
(This has been finally taken care of)

My last discussion with them they claimed all the
problems with the car must've happened between the
time the transporter picked it up and delivered it.

Ya Right!

(4-22-03)
I have also replaced the transmission pan, oil pan and
valve cover gaskets and the oil sending unit and the
car still is leaking oil really bad.. The mechanic
says that next to do are the main head gaskets and
the gaskets on the block for a mere $600 - $800
depending on what he finds when he's got the engine
apart.

Here's the web page I put together for them..

http://www.geocities.com/scalig/turbo_shifty.html


04-30-03

As of today I am still dripping oil all over and
have found out since it has gotten warmer that the
air doesn't work....

Well it finally went full circle last nite
on my way home from band practice...

Thunderstorms, lightening and pouring rain..

1 Mile from home....

The engine hatched....

Need an engine now

Oh Boy....

Yaaaaaaaa. I wouldn't buy the last candy bar on
the planet from these guys....

<I feel for this guy and suggested that maybe he should sell that car and get a Mercedes 300D and join this board to get help on maintaining the car....edge>

holy smokes edge - what a nightmare story...:eek:

i think i'm gonna keep my car for awhile... if that's what happens to people.

Why do people take pictures of cars in the shade? They must be tyring to hide something.

I'm refering to the 350 from Richmond Va. on Ebay.

it's baaack....!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2414781154&category=6330