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12-08-2003, 01:56 AM
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Your car has a lower encapsulation panel that has to come off to get to the drain plug then go back on, I doubt they have the proper filter for your car, I doubt they know how much oil your car takes or that you shouldn't fill it to the high mark on the dipstick, I'm sure they only have green coolant for topping up your cooling system where (hopefully) your car has the correct spec of coolant which doesn't come in green... lots of reasons not to take your car to such a place. I can't justify the cost or convenience over the potential risks for such a fine car.
Forgot to answer the question - yes, on my mom's Camry, and it left a trail of oil all the way home because they cross-threaded the oil drain plug. Sixto 95 S420 87 300SDL 83 300SD ... $950, see cars forum 
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12-08-2003, 10:37 AM
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Yes. Once, in Grass Valley, CA. When they changed the oil filter element AFTER changing the oil and then would not listen to my reason why it should have been done before the oil change, I realized I was dealing with idiots. Never went back.
Most of these quicky oil change places don't understand diesel oil requirements either. Unless you know and trust them explicitly, run like hell. Wes
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12-08-2003, 12:57 PM
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I'd avoid them!
I've heard of many quick oil changes in MB diesels that ended in engine siezures. They simply r&r'd the filter with an impact wrench. When one stud broke off- they saw it didn't leak oil and sent them out the door. Down the highway at peak oil pressure, they spewed oil and the motors siezed. I've seen problems from cheap aftermarket filters. Use a Mann/Knetch etc... Walmart has a good selection of 5W40 and 15W40 diesel rated motor oils. You can also opt for Mobil 1 15W50=) If you do it yourself- buy an oil extractor. Makes changing easy and then you don't have to remove the sound shield or get on your back! Michael
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12-08-2003, 10:57 PM
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When I was young, there used to be a Chevron Station down the street from me, and the man who owned it was a trusted guy in the neighborhood, and was qualified, and dependable. My dad used to take the SD up there and his 96 DeVille, the 85 Cougar and his old 85 Town Car before it was totalled up there for oil changes until Chevron closed it down about 3 years ago. Chevron wanted to close down the service stations that serviced cars and had car washes for some reason. But the people who worked up there knew what they were doing whenever they were servicing. The car never had any major mechanical problems when he changed our oil for us. I don't know now though, but some people at service stations and large chains arent trustworthy, qualified and dependable as the man who used to do oil changes for us. So I don't think I'd go to places like that to get my oil changed now. I'd rather have the qualified MB independent tech change the oil for me.
-Joe
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12-09-2003, 12:03 AM
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I don't trust any mechanics anymore (especially a quick lube or muffler shop), touch my car and lose your hand.
 Back a couple years ago I had my grand prix worked for it's stalling problem or a couple normal maintenance things other than that I've done everything myself. If something has to be messed up, at least I know who can take the credit for it.  My uncle had his oil changed here a little back on his truck, they cross threaded the drain plug (next time he changed it himself to find this, the plug wouldn't stay in!). They've screwed up more than they fixed on that truck and he keeps paying them and going back.  It still have driveline problems, a simple clutch swap turned into a tranny rebuild, new T/C, two new clutches, new flywheel and the throwout bearing still makes noises.
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12-09-2003, 06:30 AM
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Stay away from any of the chains...
I used to run co. 4x4's doing mineral exploration and we put lots of mile on them(30,000/year) so oil got changed a lot as did hubs packed, gear lube etc and we had various shops do it. Jiffy Lube did an oil change on my new that year co. rig(about 10k miles). Seems they didn't notice the gasket from the old filter came off the filter and was still stuck to the filter mount. They installed a new filter on top of the old gasket. Less than an hour later at 75mph I blew the oil out of the motor via the filter. Yeah it's a co. rig so it wasn't my prob but the co. sprung for a new crate motor and eventually via lawyers Jiffy Lube paid for the screw up. Within the last year a bud in Seattle went to a chain store oil change place and had all his fluids changed. Made it a ways up I-5 before he blew the rear axle out of the Jeep. Fill plug was in but it was bone dry. He's still trying to get his money out of them but he's poor and can't afford a lawyer that costs more than a new rear axle so he's eating that one. If you really don't want to mess with changing your own oil ask around locally for a garage that will do it. Pubs, cafes, neighbors are great for local knowledge. Just stay away from the chain stores.
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