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westkill 02-13-2004 07:24 PM

what else could operate the SLS pump?
 
Heres my Question.
REplaced the motor in my 83 TD with one from a sedan so no provision for the SLS pump. SWapping the head seemed a bit much and I didn't want to open up a perfect running motor with 112K on it. SO my thought is, What else could be used to pump the hydraulic fluid?. I was thinking a 12v pump like the ones used to work the convertable top systems in the early Chevys etc. How much pressure does the system need? ANy suggestions?
Thanks MIke

R Leo 02-13-2004 09:14 PM

At 800-100 RPM, the SLS pump generates about 130 bar (~1800 psi) and the system's pressure relief valve opens at 185 bar (~2600 psi). So, if you could find a 12VDC hydraulic pump capable of generating those pressures, you might just have it made.

Source 123 chassis FSM Vol #1 pg 32.3-530/1

westkill 02-13-2004 09:34 PM

Where is the pressure relief valve normally located?. Is it part of the pump or the the leveling valve located in the rear of the wagon.? On Ebay there is a 12v pump rated at 2000psi. What do you think? Thanks Mike

ForcedInduction 02-14-2004 01:31 AM

Any 12v pump you find that can make 1800+psi is going to take alot of power to run. You might want to look into a new alternator to provide the omph to prevent draining the battery.

R Leo 02-14-2004 01:55 AM

Relief valve is integrated into the positioning valve.
 
How about a belt driven pump and run it as an accessory on the front of the engine....or, one step further, take an MBZ pump off of a wagon head and adapt it to run as a belt driven accessory?

All this sounds like a huge PITA and, gives me a lot of respect for the design of the leveling system in these cars

ForcedInduction 02-14-2004 02:10 AM

Is the pump powered by a sprocket on the timing chain or a second chain like the oil pump? Since the pump uses the hydro fluid as lube, couldent you convert the old pump to belt drive with a scratch built bracket and pully?

R Leo 02-14-2004 02:16 AM

Lance,
It's driven by the timing chain.

95300YDT-A 02-14-2004 07:33 AM

On my '90 300TD turbo the power steering pump and the SLS pump are putt together in ONE houssing. Wouldn't that be a solution (belt driven) ?

Danny

R Leo 02-14-2004 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 95300YDT-A
On my '90 300TD turbo the power steering pump and the SLS pump are putt together in ONE houssing. Wouldn't that be a solution (belt driven) ?

Danny

Do they share a common reservoir or a common hydraulic fluid?

95300YDT-A 02-14-2004 10:53 AM

No ! Only the housing and the shaft is shared.
Everything else is apart !

Danny

notlostmaybe 02-14-2004 12:34 PM

a 12v pump with a small resovoir and a pressure relief valve
will probably work fine. the leveling system requires only
a small volume of fluid per minute. it is the volume of fluid
that the pump pumps that determine it size and power
requirements. pressure is a minor consideration.
i have no numbers, but i bet you wouldnt need more than
1-3 gallons per minute flow.

you could take your car to a tractor shop. they usually
do lots of "custom" hydraulic work. the easiest and maybe
cheapest way might be to run a second circuit off the power
steering pump as is done with hydraulic wenches.

don

sixto 02-15-2004 03:26 AM

Check with your local lowriders. Those guys know a lot about hydraulics. http://www.layitlow.com/

Sixto
95 S420
87 300SDL


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