Could I use this kit, with an additional glow plug, in my 83 300SD?

I also agree... it will pay for itself with the more maintenance free aspect as well.

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Yes, that kit will work perfectly in your car. I have it in mine, and it works great.

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Yup, I have it in my 82 300D as well.

That kit should work for most cars through 1985 with the OM616/617 engines. It won't work for the OM601/602/603 though. Those received factory afterglow starting in 1990 (a couple had it earlier), so the upgrade path for the early 60x is to use the factory afterglow parts. That's what I did for my '87, and it works great.

A full writeup on the OM60x afterglow, with photos & part numbers, is at this link:
http://***************/forum/showthread.php?t=398

How do manufacturers make afterglow-rated plugs? How much longer do they last in afterglow service than standard plugs? Your answer should be of one of the three following forms:

(a) I don't know how they are made better but I have tried both and know the afterglow-rated plugs last longer by this factor . . .

(b) They are made better as follows . . .

(c) They are the same glow plug but sold in a box marked "afterglow rated" at a higher price. Everything else is your imagination.

Finally, where does one buy afterglow-rated plugs? I checked both FastLane and ********AZ and found only the standard plugs for the 615-616-617 engines as well as the 601-602-603 engines. FastLane lists both Bosch and Beru for both kinds of engines but says nothing about them being afterglow rated or not.

Jeremy

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1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car
2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car
Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022)
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762
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People still buy glowplugs? I have several years supply of good glowplugs I got from junkyard cars.

No wonder every diesel I see in the junkyard is missing the glowplugs!

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Our all-Diesel family
1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car
2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car
Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022)
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762
"Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz."
-- Janis Joplin, October 1, 1970

Jeremy,

EPC shows 000 159 81 01 or 000 159 83 01 for non-afterglow applications and 000 159 17 01 or 000 159 36 01 for afterglow applications.

Fastlane shows F1100-11683 or F1100-117853 for non-afterglow applications. I don't see part numbers for afterglow applications. Maybe they show if you put them in a shopping cart. I didn't go that far.

********AZ shows 80006 for non-afterglow applications and 80031 for afterglow applications.

After all that, the answer could well be (c).

Sixto
87 300D

Thanks, Sixto. I probably will leave the '85 alone but add the temp-controlled relay mod to the '87. Since only the first start of the day is likely to trigger afterglow, I would not expect to see much of a decrease in glow plug life (but we will see).

Jeremy

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Our all-Diesel family
1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car
2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car
Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022)
Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762
"Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz."
-- Janis Joplin, October 1, 1970

Sixto,

I made a minor correction to your part numbers (in bold type above). However, the difference between the two pairs is the dimensions, not the design/functionality:

MB number 000-159-81-01 and 000-159-83-01 are 25mm plugs used only with vertical injection
MB number 001-159-17-01 and 001-159-36-01 are 23mm plugs used only with oblique injection (aka inclined / angled injection)
Bosch number 0-250-201-039 (aka 80006) is 25mm, click here for specs
Bosch number 0-250-201-041 (aka 80031) is 23mm, click here for specs


Also, check out page 4 of the Beru catalog (click here for the PDF file). Note that the afterglow rated plugs are capable of dealing with the higher voltage present when the engine is running (approx 13.5v, instead of 11.5v). That is probably the main difference between non-afterglow rated plugs, and afterglow rated plugs. Also check out these two glow plug tech articles from Beru.. click here and here (small PDF files). I believe all the Bosch and OE plugs (23mm and 2mm) will be afterglow rated. AFAIK, only the Beru GV- numbers are not afterglow rated.

Finally... I created a cross-reference guide for most OM60x engines, listing the MB, Bosch, and Beru part numbers. Click here to view the text file. For the record, I'm ignoring the oddball 27mm glow plug, only used on the 602.961 (1987 190D-T) in the USA, since it is so rare. The Duraterm Chromium plugs are no longer available, the only difference was they were chrome plated for longer life, and had a 3-year warranty instead of 1-year. They were never sold in the USA, you had to get them from Europe.

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I did the purple wire hack this weekend pulling it out of the plug. Car starts much easier now.

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Afterglow and the Violet Wire

in the model reference says the original voltage was 11 and the bosch voltage is 12 for the 0 250 201 041, 039, 045

in the specifications it lists them as 11 volts

assuming i read it correctly, I am technically challenged

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1987 /88 300D 178K & Very tidy
WVO RUG Diesel Blend OEM fuel heater thermostat by passed
1991 Nissan Patrol TD42 350k & very rough
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HMMMMM!

When I did 4 of the 6 plugs in my 1995 S350 I just grabbed the spares I had for my 1987 300D. I used the wrong plugs!

I've been running that way for at least 3,000 miles. Should I just go with it, or should I change them out immediately?

-Jim

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Guys, I would STRONGLY RECOMMEND doing the proper afterglow conversion as gsxr detailed, and not simply cutting/disconnecting the violet wire.

Unbeknownst to me, the PO of my now-wrecked red '87 had cut the violet wire. I had no idea there was such a mod, and simply concluded he had done the afterglow conversion I'd seen mentioned.

Problem is, if the timer circuit in the GP relay malfunctions, the glow plugs WILL NOT SHUT OFF unless you disconnect the harness at the relay, with the violet wire cut/disconnected.

Long painful story as to how I discovered this.

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'87 300D 151K miles - R.I.P. 12/08
'05 Jeep Liberty CRD 67K miles
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Isn't it just as likely the timer circuit in an afterglow relay will fail? What's the difference?

Sixto
87 300D