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dieselbeagel 06-18-2004 09:11 PM

Valve Adjusting Sequence
 
Today, I adjusted the valves of my 83 300D Turbo.
Using a 22mm on the Power Steering bolt, I turned the engine and watched for the next lobe on the camshaft to be directly opposite the rocker arm and then checked and adjusted.

It so happened that Valve 1 Intake was the first one, in this case. If u just daisy chain from any one u start at, u will have adjusted all valves with minimal cranking.

Ur comments on this method would be appreciated.

Intake Exhaust

Valve 1 1 8

Valve 2 3 10

Valve 3 9 6

Valve 4 5 2

Valve 5 7 4

dieselbeagel 06-18-2004 09:24 PM

Somethinf took the spacing out.

Once again, below is the sequence the respective lobes were directly opposite the rocker arm.



------------------- INTAKE--------------------EXHAUST

VALVE 1'''''''''''''''''''''''1''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''8
'
VALVE 2'''''''''''''''''''''''3''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''10
'
VALVE 3'''''''''''''''''''''''9''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''6
'
VALVE 4'''''''''''''''''''''''5''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''2
'
VALVE 5'''''''''''''''''''''''7''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''4

muybweno 06-18-2004 10:43 PM

never done a valve adjustment before...so i'm clueless!
I would like to do this someday but i need those wreches---> i want to do a great job too on it

TwitchKitty 06-18-2004 11:07 PM

I wrote on a piece of paper the clearance for each valve as I adjusted. To start I wrote 1 2 3 4 5 and I E for each cylinder.

1 I E
2 I E
.
.
.

etc

It didn't look like this, I made it like a diagram of the valves.

When you have written a clearance for each valve you are finished. Adjust them in order that the cam lobe faces away from the rocker.

Gravy work, if you don't like adjusting valves, you should probably let someone else work on your car.

Steve300 06-19-2004 11:42 AM

What is normal charge for a value adjustment job if I bring my 1985 300D to a mechanic?

Thank you

Steve

84W123DT 08-22-2004 03:14 AM

Planning a DIY valve adjustment 84 300DT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dieselbeagel
... Using a 22mm on the Power Steering bolt, I turned the engine and watched for the next lobe on the camshaft to be directly opposite the rocker arm and then checked and adjusted...

Is the above a safe method? I'm afraid that something might break at the PS component. :confused:

The factory CD recommends the use of a 27mm socket (1/2 rachet) but without illustration. Where exactly would you insert it to turn the engine manually? :confused:

TwitchKitty 08-22-2004 07:45 AM

I used a strap wrench around my crank pullies but I did it with my injectors out so the engine is easy to turn. With the strap wrench I could turn the engine over from the top. With the injectors out you could probably grab a belt with your gloved hands and turn the engine.

I saw no need for special wrenches.

whunter 08-22-2004 08:45 AM

Very smart.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TwitchKitty
I used a strap wrench around my crank pullies but I did it with my injectors out so the engine is easy to turn. With the strap wrench I could turn the engine over from the top. With the injectors out you could probably grab a belt with your gloved hands and turn the engine.
I saw no need for special wrenches.

Hi TwitchKitty
:) The way you do it is very good, and smart. :)
Have a great day.

leathermang 08-22-2004 09:20 AM

It is a BAD IDEA to use the power steering pulley or nut to turn the engine. It was not made for that . The factory shop manual specifies using the Crank Bolt for this...
The power steering pulley has a tapered fit ....
It can take a lot of work to get that pulley off ( read multiple oxy-acet heatings) plus a lot of hammering or hydraulic pressure....
There are plenty of posts about this situation already in the files...

dieselbeagel 08-22-2004 03:30 PM

I learned about this method from a mercedes benz mechanic at the local dealership.

When using the 22mm steering pump bolt, use ur other hand and press down a little on the steering pump belt to ensure it is under pressure when u r rotating. Not much but just pressing it down about 1/2 inch or so.

The sequence u see in my post above is as folllows :

The injector number is down the left hand column.
Each injector has an intake and exhaust.
Looking at the intake and exhaust colums, U will see that they go from 1 to 10. The sequence indicates the corresponding lobe that is ready to be adjusted when in position.

leathermang 08-22-2004 06:17 PM

"I learned about this method from a mercedes benz mechanic at the local dealership."--DieselBeagel

It is not illegal for a dealership to have an idiot working for it.

The Factory shop manual specifies using the crank bolt to turn the engine.

I have seen the detrimental effects of the overtightening that pulley nut... it is not pretty,,, and since the Factory shop manual specifies a different method of tightening...those problems are totally avoidable by people able to read.

84W123DT 10-01-2004 03:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dieselbeagel
Somethinf took the spacing out.

Once again, below is the sequence the respective lobes were directly opposite the rocker arm.

------------------- INTAKE--------------------EXHAUST

VALVE 1'''''''''''''''''''''''1''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''8
VALVE 2'''''''''''''''''''''''3''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''10
VALVE 3'''''''''''''''''''''''9''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''6
VALVE 4'''''''''''''''''''''''5''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''2
VALVE 5'''''''''''''''''''''''7''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''4

Am I reading your chart above-illustrated correctly?

I see that you referenced the Valves by #1 thru #10 (front to rear) irrespective of what they are. IOW, Valves #1 and #2 belongs to #1 cylinder, Valves #2 and #3 belongs to #2 cylinder, and so on. If so, shouldn't Valve #1 on #1 cylinder be EXHAUST? :confused:

I stand to be corrected.

dieselbeagel 10-01-2004 12:35 PM

Good catch!

Valve 1,2,3,4,5 on the left side should read as Cylinder 1,2,3,4,5.

Each cylinder would have an intake and exhaust valve.

84W123DT 10-01-2004 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dieselbeagel
Good catch!

Valve 1,2,3,4,5 on the left side should read as Cylinder 1,2,3,4,5.

Each cylinder would have an intake and exhaust valve.

You have not answered my question.

Base on your chart, Valve #1 should be under the EXHAUST column (see thumbnail photo)?

84W123DT 10-02-2004 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mercedesdr

Are these service manuals original or copies of the original?


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