anyone familiar with the latest valentine 1 detector and its POP feature?
how widely used are the instant on guns ( MPH Industries Enforcer / BEE III ) that this modified Valentine1 detects?

Instant on Radar?? Almost universal. Only hoe dunk dinky towns have the old junk. This trend began in 1980. The only time any state trooper drives around with the radar on is simply a warning, slow down. He realy doesn't even want to cite you, just inform you they are on the road. If they want to get you, they leave it off untill you are trapped. Then, lasers. Try to defend against a good laser opperating trooper. You can't. I use the Valentine and consider it the very best. If anyone knows of a better detector, tell us. Better to me is distance, like at least a mile. All you can hope for is that a trooper a mile up the road just shot it at someine else. Best defence; stay around 5 MPH of the zone or follow the truckers. States I've found to avoid, Kansas and Pa. Good luck from Oregon.

Bel has a pretty nice detector with laser jammers front and rear.

Fully built in unit..

Has gotten some very good reviews.

Most people I know use a V1.

Alon

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Good post. If the troopers are serious, a radar detector won't help you -- there is no defense against laser other than reasonable and prudent speed. I have an older Valentine One in my car; my wife has a Passport 8500. I simply like to know what is happening on the road. If a cop is on the highway shooting radar/laser, it affects the flow of traffic. A speeder in front of you can brake quickly, so if you know a speed trap is ahead it can make you a safer driver.

The advantage to a high-end detector is that a traffic cop is less likely to detect that you have a radar detector. I remember driving around with a Whistler in my car -- I used to get pulled over all the time. One told me that the Whistler was "obvious." He was pretty cool, though -- I was doing about 73 in a 65, and he let me go after chatting me up a bit to see if I had a snootful.

BTW, you can add Wisconsin to your list of states with aggressive speed enforcement, Dan. Tourists from the Land of Lincoln make it a rich revenue source.

Russ M.

I have a Valentine 1 in 3 of my vehicles, and an Escort Passport in my older Suburban as it is built in from years ago. The Valentine 1's have paid for themselves many times. You still have to be aware of what around you. Obviously if you are the only vehicle on the road and going 100 mph, and there were no vehicles in front of you to be radar 'd you are pretty much a sitting duck, but the V1's give you plenty of warning front/rear & to the sides.

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It's all about laser jamming nowadays.

Not too expensive, but not sure on the legality of them in some states.

Either way, pretty much any early warning device should be sufficient.

I am a big fan of the V1, don;t have one, but have only heard good things about it.

Thouhg The BEl RX75 pro I think thats the one with the laser jammers looks pretty damn hot.

Alon

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Jammers don't work. Proven fact.

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[QUOTE=Maki]Good post. If the troopers are serious, a radar detector won't help you -- there is no defense against laser other than reasonable and prudent speed. I have an older Valentine One in my car; my wife has a Passport 8500. I simply like to know what is happening on the road. If a cop is on the highway shooting radar/laser, it affects the flow of traffic. A speeder in front of you can brake quickly, so if you know a speed trap is ahead it can make you a safer driver.

I have a Passport 8500. Works great, has saved me many times. But all are correct, if they really want to get you, the good ones can
Question for the Valentine owners......my feeling was it wasn't worth the extra $100 for some arrows. While kind of neat I thought I could do without for the price. Other than the arrows, is there a significant performance difference between the 8500 and the Valentine?

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Valentine is definately a quality unit, magnesium case and an upgrade plan that is a nice feature.

There is an ongoing argument between Steve Valentine and a person who runs radar test for magazines like Motor Trend and is a quoted voice on lots of radar detector sales sites. If you do research on the web you can find out wha it is all about.

Those arrows on the unit are a major help, I could never use a unit without them.

There is NO QUESTION that the arrows are worth the $100 premium. This is the feature that makes the unit so valuable vs. other detectors. As long as the range is as good as other units, that's fine.

Any military person will tell you that the more information you can get about your enemy (where he is, how many of them, how threatening they are) puts you at an advantage over them. This is the guiding philosophy behind the Valentine One -- to provide as much info as humanly possible about the radar.

I can't believe that this feature hasn't already been copied by BEL or Passport, actually.....

Cheers,
Gerry