I'm going back on the dyno tomorrow. I'm wondering if anyone with the TT kit has found that the setup can be adjusted to get boost going at low rpms. I don't get out of vacuum until I'm nearly at 4000 rpms and then I get a surge of power. I'd like to get it to come on a bit more in the 2500-3000 rpm range with a less steep power curve.

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1994 E500 199/Gray 82k
84 300D (Salty) Orient Red/Palomino 141k
88 300CE (Ersatzhammer) 904/Java 163k -- Turbo Technics twin turbo kit, AMG Gen I body kit, Sportline steering box and steering wheel, Sportline/Eibach /Bilstein Sport/500E suspension, Quaife LSD in 210 mm diff case, Silver Arrow brakes.
88 300CE Brabus 3.6 199 on Black 44k

Mark

I start developing boost below 2000RPM....
I was at full 7.5lb boost at 3750RPM

Are you using the TT coil hoses for the intake along with the Fram panel filter ?
The TT supplied intake and boost tubing along with the filter is extremely restrictive.

I picked up about 40HP between the initial dyno run with the TT supplied tubing and the modification with the K&N filter, silicone and aluminum intake and boost tubing.

Have you checked for boost leaks?
Are you using the TT chassis mount intercooler?
Determined if you have too great of a pressure drop at the intercooler?

Ed

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1988 300CE TWIN TURBO WIDEBODY
1994 E320 CABRIOLET
1999 C43 AMG
2005 G55K AMG
2008 CLK63 AMG BLACK SERIES

Ed - I have replaced the intake tubing with aluminum and smooth silicone. I also have the same air filter you are using. Yes, I am using the TT intercooler mounted under the intake/filter housing.

I have not checked for boost leaks other than by examining the various hoses and connections to see that they are tight and have found nothing amiss. Is there a way to definitively look for leaks? A smoke test, perhaps?

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by a pressure drop at the intercooler.

Mark

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I never go far without a little Big Star

1994 E500 199/Gray 82k
84 300D (Salty) Orient Red/Palomino 141k
88 300CE (Ersatzhammer) 904/Java 163k -- Turbo Technics twin turbo kit, AMG Gen I body kit, Sportline steering box and steering wheel, Sportline/Eibach /Bilstein Sport/500E suspension, Quaife LSD in 210 mm diff case, Silver Arrow brakes.
88 300CE Brabus 3.6 199 on Black 44k

By the way, here's a vote for the M103. The guy from the tuner shop just called to report on the leak down test they did. That 24 year old engine is amazing. Every cylinder leaked either 2 or 3% with an error range of plus or minus 2%.

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I never go far without a little Big Star

1994 E500 199/Gray 82k
84 300D (Salty) Orient Red/Palomino 141k
88 300CE (Ersatzhammer) 904/Java 163k -- Turbo Technics twin turbo kit, AMG Gen I body kit, Sportline steering box and steering wheel, Sportline/Eibach /Bilstein Sport/500E suspension, Quaife LSD in 210 mm diff case, Silver Arrow brakes.
88 300CE Brabus 3.6 199 on Black 44k

The fuel mixture is now considerably leaner than it was and it is making 227 up at the wheels. I'll let it run like this for a bit with an eye on the acts and then up the boost maybe a quarter turn on the mbc. With the leaner mixture and this cold air, the torque on this car has gotten crazy strong. It's truly a hoot to drive. I'm going to have to get to a track and time it.

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I never go far without a little Big Star

1994 E500 199/Gray 82k
84 300D (Salty) Orient Red/Palomino 141k
88 300CE (Ersatzhammer) 904/Java 163k -- Turbo Technics twin turbo kit, AMG Gen I body kit, Sportline steering box and steering wheel, Sportline/Eibach /Bilstein Sport/500E suspension, Quaife LSD in 210 mm diff case, Silver Arrow brakes.
88 300CE Brabus 3.6 199 on Black 44k

I leaned out considerably when the cold weather set in, too. At 10 degree F not having an intercooler isn't much of an issue. I've been using an octane booster too for the last several tanks as insurance on the warmer days. At a mile high they consider 91 octane "high test". I'm gonna have to come up with a timing retard solution for the coming summer to avoid dumping a ton of fuel at it.

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90 300TE 4-M
Turbo 103, T3/T04E 50 trim
T04B cover .60 AR
Stage 3 turbine .63 AR
A2W I/C, 40 LB/HR
MS2E, 60-2 Direct Coil Control
3" Exh, AEM W/B O2
Underdrive Alt. and P/S Pulleys,
Vented Rear Discs, .034 Booster.
3.07 diffs 1st Gear Start

90 300CE 104.980
Milled & ported head, 10.3:1 compression
197° intake cam w/20° advancer
Tuned CIS ECU
4° ignition advance
PCS TCM2000, built 722.6
600W networked suction fan
Sportline sway bars
V8 rear subframe, Quaife ATB 3.06 diff

a guy overhear on the mbclub fourum has an original 103 turbo technics convertion with 170,000 miles on it.

it out performs his 124 e500 in side to side comparison.

he still as the coil tube pipeing and 1990's pigy back and that car makes boost in the teens as well.

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ce 320 amg
widebody
tiwn turbo
Mutty 'der nail'
soon to be a six speed nail


"some mods improve your car and make it into something it never was, other mods, however, although essentially the same, are not, and make that car a ricer"

if your car isnt shiny, you dont know what you are talking about, remember; paint shine = knowledge. In order to be taken seriously, you should spend all your money on paint, (and get a dyno reading).
Dont forget to polish it often

Nick - I'm getting 7.5 psi with the MBC turned all the way down, as far as it will go! So I can't help but think that I'll get into the teens once I get it opened up.

I'm also not getting boost to show up on the gauge in the lower rpms. Ed has it earlier, but I haven't figured out why.

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I never go far without a little Big Star

1994 E500 199/Gray 82k
84 300D (Salty) Orient Red/Palomino 141k
88 300CE (Ersatzhammer) 904/Java 163k -- Turbo Technics twin turbo kit, AMG Gen I body kit, Sportline steering box and steering wheel, Sportline/Eibach /Bilstein Sport/500E suspension, Quaife LSD in 210 mm diff case, Silver Arrow brakes.
88 300CE Brabus 3.6 199 on Black 44k

you may need to adjust the rods that connect from the wastegates to the pressure 'thingys' (cant remember their name)

when i first fitted my kit i had to alter mine, cant remember if it was lengthen or shorten, some know all will probably chime in and tell you.

any way, apparently tt set these rods to only alow 7ish psi, the turbos will got higher. they are held in place with small 'c' clips and I lost loads of the clips down the back of the engine trying to refit, it is a right pain in the ass job!

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ce 320 amg
widebody
tiwn turbo
Mutty 'der nail'
soon to be a six speed nail


"some mods improve your car and make it into something it never was, other mods, however, although essentially the same, are not, and make that car a ricer"

if your car isnt shiny, you dont know what you are talking about, remember; paint shine = knowledge. In order to be taken seriously, you should spend all your money on paint, (and get a dyno reading).
Dont forget to polish it often

One of the few remaining uninstalled kits is on eBay at the moment:
W124 MERCEDES E320 TURBO TECHNICS TWIN TURBO CONVERSION, HUGHES AMG BRABUS E36 | eBay

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1989 300CE "Project HWA124"
(400rwhp Turbo Technics AMG C36 engine)

My twin turbo 3.6L 300CE is finally up for auction, no reserve price, winner takes it.
Mercedes Benz 300 Series 300CE 3 6L AMG Twin Turbo | eBay

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1989 300CE "Project HWA124"
(400rwhp Turbo Technics AMG C36 engine)

good thing it would never smog in California

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'95 E320 Wagon my favorite road car. '99 E300D wolf in sheeps body, '87 300D Sportline suspension, '79 300TD w/ 617.952 engine at 367,750 and counting!

Good luck! Anybody from the board bidding? After all you've gone through with getting that car to where it is, this must feel like amputation to you!

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I never go far without a little Big Star

1994 E500 199/Gray 82k
84 300D (Salty) Orient Red/Palomino 141k
88 300CE (Ersatzhammer) 904/Java 163k -- Turbo Technics twin turbo kit, AMG Gen I body kit, Sportline steering box and steering wheel, Sportline/Eibach /Bilstein Sport/500E suspension, Quaife LSD in 210 mm diff case, Silver Arrow brakes.
88 300CE Brabus 3.6 199 on Black 44k

Here's the latest dyno chart. Still making 400rwhp but could be making 500rwhp if I simply upgraded the injectors so that it could rev all the way to redline.

Attached Files

Toronto Dyno 3.pdf (27.7 KB, 380 views)

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1989 300CE "Project HWA124"
(400rwhp Turbo Technics AMG C36 engine)

hi.. my 93 benz 190e has outside air coming from side vents whats a temporary fix heater valve is working good thanks for your help.