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Gen3Benz 06-24-2007 03:52 AM

How to install 400hp 16 valve engine *writeup with pics*
 
1. remove original engine/trans
2. remove steering box and linkage
3. cut out crossmember and make holes in trans tunnel
4. mount steering rack on new cross member
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...kfronthigh.jpg

5. see if it fits
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...0/LS1front.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...1front_low.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...compressor.jpg

6. patch up the trans tunnel.
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...hitetunnel.jpg

7. cut rear lower control arm pivots and patch them up(for extra exhaust clearance)
8. add crossmember to framerail supports
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...0/whitetop.jpg

9. add some seamsealer and undercoating
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...seamsealed.jpg
more to come...

Texholdem 06-24-2007 10:19 AM

Wow, this job is way beyond my DIY capability or even imagination. Hat off!

mespe 06-24-2007 11:34 AM

I would add a little more support toward the rear of the engine mount. 400HP is a lot of torque on the sheet metal frame,,, but I've never done anything like that and am no mechanical engineer,,,

what chassis is that anyway?

Gen3Benz 06-24-2007 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mespe (Post 1544889)
I would add a little more support toward the rear of the engine mount. 400HP is a lot of torque on the sheet metal frame,,, but I've never done anything like that and am no mechanical engineer,,,

what chassis is that anyway?

Chassis is W201
Engine mount "pedestals" are sitting on 3/16 steel bent to the contour of the original crossmember.
I plan on making another crossmember on the bottom going between control arm pivots, also a strut tower brace.

Rear subframe is another story, might just make aluminum bushings or solid mount. Anyone seen a solid mounted w201 rear subframe?
Need to beef up the 4 torque loaded link mounting points with gussets.
Most likely getting an '03 ford explorer aluminum 8.8

mespe 06-24-2007 07:40 PM

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I understand that the pedestals might be strong enough, but all the torque is being applied to the two area's circled,,,

Gen3Benz 06-24-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mespe (Post 1545215)
I understand that the pedestals might be strong enough, but all the torque is being applied to the two area's circled,,,

Alot of people are dropping LS1's into 240 and 280 z nissans and running 12 second quarter mile times.
Nissan framerails and subframes are pretty chinsy, but they dont seem to have any problems.
Time will tell I guess.

mespe 06-24-2007 08:52 PM

Like I said, I'm by no means an engineer or fabricator, btu the 201's are sooo light, I'd rather put something big like that into a 124, atleast MB did so you know that the sheetmetal is think enough.

Best of luck, hope it works out good for you

Gen3Benz 06-25-2007 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mespe (Post 1545282)
Like I said, I'm by no means an engineer or fabricator, btu the 201's are sooo light, I'd rather put something big like that into a 124, atleast MB did so you know that the sheetmetal is think enough.

Best of luck, hope it works out good for you

Twin turbo small block chevy 190e.....600+ ponies 600+ torque, made in swedan
running FACTORY diff no less(no traction with 315's)
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...nturbo190e.jpg

LT4 chevy small block 190e....made in california
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...enz/LT_190.jpg
Both of these cars are running factory crossmember's, no roll cages, and they still drive straight.
However mine is significantly stronger due to the boxed tubing and braces to the frame rails.
Ill just make sure I have a chassis builder down the street from my shop give me the thumbs up, then ill be good to go.

p.s.........to hell with 124's IMO

Gen3Benz 08-26-2007 08:27 PM

11. mount 26X19 radiator on new lower support, welded 5/8 tube to bottom of radiator....fits into stock 190 grommets
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...iatorfront.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...rossmember.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...rclearance.jpg

12. mount powertrain control module(PCM) in new mount
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...mountnopcm.jpg
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...untwithpcm.jpg

13. mount powertrain fusebox on modified ABS bracket
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...90/fusebox.jpg

14. finish painting underhood
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...ntfinished.jpg

G-Benz 08-27-2007 06:39 AM

Wow! :eek: Shoehorned pretty nicely! A classy job!

Any worries about underhood temps? Exhaust manifolds don't have much breathing room...are you planning on using any heat shields?

Gen3Benz 08-27-2007 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by G-Benz (Post 1603148)
Wow! :eek: Shoehorned pretty nicely! A classy job!

Any worries about underhood temps? Exhaust manifolds don't have much breathing room...are you planning on using any heat shields?

Manifolds have factory bolt-on heatshields, I might just get the jet-hot coated.
Downpipes will be covered with header wrap to save my paint.

reinier 08-29-2007 11:39 AM

Uh ohhhh...
Looks like somebody needs to be taking some flying lessons!

Nice!

Hope that, one day, I will have enough time, to drop my M119/6spGetrag which is staring at me the last 8 months in my w201.....

reinier 08-29-2007 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mespe (Post 1545282)
Like I said, I'm by no means an engineer or fabricator, btu the 201's are sooo light, I'd rather put something big like that into a 124, atleast MB did so you know that the sheetmetal is think enough.

clearly you have never driven or felt a french car; just sneeze, and you can go on your way to have a dent removed;)

W201 in comparisson is a tank, and I can know. To much experience with french crap. Welding on ANY benz, is a joy compared to that.

FLYNAVY 08-29-2007 12:44 PM

What kind of radiator are you using? I'd be interested in getting a copy of that for my 117 V8 swap underway....

Reiner: did you ever get the 6-spd box fully adapted to your m119? I think last time I checked you had just gotten the adapter plate to bolt up....I'd love to see any progress that you have made!

Gen3Benz 08-29-2007 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FLYNAVY (Post 1605435)
What kind of radiator are you using? I'd be interested in getting a copy of that for my 117 V8 swap underway....

got it from ebay.
http://stores.ebay.com/RaceMart-Direct_Radiators-Cooling_W0QQcolZ2QQdirZQ2d1QQfsubZ8QQftidZ2QQtZkm
If you call the guy, he can make the radiator how you want it.
single/double pass...inlet/outlet locations.....with or without radiator cap neck....pipe thread bung for vent tube.

They pretty much just weld alum tanks to existing cores...welds look nice.

This radiator was $223 shipped....no filler neck...pipe bung for vent line to expansion tank.


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