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Transfer Case - Help !
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Please,I need help. 1999 ML320 - What is wrong? On max turn left or right - coming noise - some peoples call chatterening. This is the problem of Transfer Case or front - CV joints. I am just confused. On 1999 Transfer Case ratio was change from 50/50 to 52/48. What I need replace to make working properly. torque split f / r after 10-19-98 48 - 52 Best Regards. Last edited by ML320 The Best; 02-17-2005 at 09:11 PM. |
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This is a problem with the transfer case. This is very common on earlier ML's. MB called this "normal" after we replaced quite a few of them under warranty. it is not a safety hazard, although it will get progressively worse over time and get more and more annoying. It used to be that they could only be replaced. MB has now made the parts available to rebuild them.
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My transfer case may be going. I get a grinding noise now (definately not brakes) and shuddering at 65 and above. Seems to be from the rear. Sounds more right than left.
Tell me more about these rebuild parts.
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Michael LaFleur '05 E320 CDI - 86,000 miles '86 300SDL - 360,000 miles '85 300SD - 150,000 miles (sold) '89 190D - 120,000 miles (sold) '85 300SD - 317,000 miles (sold) '98 ML320 - 270,000 miles (sold) '75 300D - 170,000 miles (sold) '83 Harley Davidson FLTC (Broken again) :-( '61 Plymouth Valiant - 60k mikes 2004 Papillon (Oliver) 2005 Tzitzu (Griffon) 2009 Welsh Corgi (Buba) |
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I'm no convinced that it's the transfer case yet. It makes no difference whether I'm turning or not or whether I'm in low range or not.
Bearings? CV joints?
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Michael LaFleur '05 E320 CDI - 86,000 miles '86 300SDL - 360,000 miles '85 300SD - 150,000 miles (sold) '89 190D - 120,000 miles (sold) '85 300SD - 317,000 miles (sold) '98 ML320 - 270,000 miles (sold) '75 300D - 170,000 miles (sold) '83 Harley Davidson FLTC (Broken again) :-( '61 Plymouth Valiant - 60k mikes 2004 Papillon (Oliver) 2005 Tzitzu (Griffon) 2009 Welsh Corgi (Buba) |
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If you mean that mid support bearing on the drive shaft. I replaced that 2-1/2 years ago.
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Michael LaFleur '05 E320 CDI - 86,000 miles '86 300SDL - 360,000 miles '85 300SD - 150,000 miles (sold) '89 190D - 120,000 miles (sold) '85 300SD - 317,000 miles (sold) '98 ML320 - 270,000 miles (sold) '75 300D - 170,000 miles (sold) '83 Harley Davidson FLTC (Broken again) :-( '61 Plymouth Valiant - 60k mikes 2004 Papillon (Oliver) 2005 Tzitzu (Griffon) 2009 Welsh Corgi (Buba) |
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The ML's with the "early" transfer case WILL have transfer case problems!
Time & driving style can cause early failure. We are seeing WORN out chains on some as early as 125,000 miles. Best thing to do is change the fluid to synthetic & change it often. IF failure does happen..get A transfer case from a 2000+ model.. Avoid those sharp turns is parking lots!
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MERCEDES Benz Master Guild Technician (6 TIMES) ASE Master Technician Mercedes Benz Star Technician (2 times) 44 years foreign automotive repair 27 Years M.B. Shop foreman (dealer) MB technical information Specialist (15 years) 190E 2.3 16V ITS SCCA race car (sold) 1986 190E 2.3 16V 2.5 (sold) Retired Moderator |
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This '98 has the original transfer case and it has almost 160,000 miles on it.
Roy Hunter and I drove it around yesterday. The sound is definately coming from center right behind the front seats. Does anyone have any information about the rebuild kit?
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Michael LaFleur '05 E320 CDI - 86,000 miles '86 300SDL - 360,000 miles '85 300SD - 150,000 miles (sold) '89 190D - 120,000 miles (sold) '85 300SD - 317,000 miles (sold) '98 ML320 - 270,000 miles (sold) '75 300D - 170,000 miles (sold) '83 Harley Davidson FLTC (Broken again) :-( '61 Plymouth Valiant - 60k mikes 2004 Papillon (Oliver) 2005 Tzitzu (Griffon) 2009 Welsh Corgi (Buba) |
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The rebuild KIT is 163-283-00-17..$600.(list).. you will need both OUTPUT seals & a tube of sealer...and about 6 hrs
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MERCEDES Benz Master Guild Technician (6 TIMES) ASE Master Technician Mercedes Benz Star Technician (2 times) 44 years foreign automotive repair 27 Years M.B. Shop foreman (dealer) MB technical information Specialist (15 years) 190E 2.3 16V ITS SCCA race car (sold) 1986 190E 2.3 16V 2.5 (sold) Retired Moderator |
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A worn chain will make a popping sound under a load condition as it slips
Around the sprocket. The diagnosis is to power brake the car lightly. One foot on the brake And the other on the gas pedal if you hear a popping noise it’s the chain |
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Do you know what is in the kit? Is there anything else I may need once I get inside? (Besides the output seals).
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Michael LaFleur '05 E320 CDI - 86,000 miles '86 300SDL - 360,000 miles '85 300SD - 150,000 miles (sold) '89 190D - 120,000 miles (sold) '85 300SD - 317,000 miles (sold) '98 ML320 - 270,000 miles (sold) '75 300D - 170,000 miles (sold) '83 Harley Davidson FLTC (Broken again) :-( '61 Plymouth Valiant - 60k mikes 2004 Papillon (Oliver) 2005 Tzitzu (Griffon) 2009 Welsh Corgi (Buba) |
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The sealer part number 003-989-98-20-10 is $13.
The 2 in/output seals are 163-284-00-60 are $8ea. number 83 in picture Here is a picture of the internals... number 14 is chain kit
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MERCEDES Benz Master Guild Technician (6 TIMES) ASE Master Technician Mercedes Benz Star Technician (2 times) 44 years foreign automotive repair 27 Years M.B. Shop foreman (dealer) MB technical information Specialist (15 years) 190E 2.3 16V ITS SCCA race car (sold) 1986 190E 2.3 16V 2.5 (sold) Retired Moderator |
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The dealer could not find that part number.
They did however find 163-283-00-13, with no expalanation as to what kind of kit it was. List price $590, available in Germany only.
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Michael LaFleur '05 E320 CDI - 86,000 miles '86 300SDL - 360,000 miles '85 300SD - 150,000 miles (sold) '89 190D - 120,000 miles (sold) '85 300SD - 317,000 miles (sold) '98 ML320 - 270,000 miles (sold) '75 300D - 170,000 miles (sold) '83 Harley Davidson FLTC (Broken again) :-( '61 Plymouth Valiant - 60k mikes 2004 Papillon (Oliver) 2005 Tzitzu (Griffon) 2009 Welsh Corgi (Buba) |
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We have several (163-283-00-13) in stock... Have sold 12 in the prevoius year...
AGAIN buying a used one (complete transfer case) from a (junk yard) for a 2000 & later with low mileage is a "BETTER" idea for the DIYer...
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MERCEDES Benz Master Guild Technician (6 TIMES) ASE Master Technician Mercedes Benz Star Technician (2 times) 44 years foreign automotive repair 27 Years M.B. Shop foreman (dealer) MB technical information Specialist (15 years) 190E 2.3 16V ITS SCCA race car (sold) 1986 190E 2.3 16V 2.5 (sold) Retired Moderator |
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Yes, crawling under there, it didn't look too bad. A connector, mount and a couple of shafts.
Now to locate a part...
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Michael LaFleur '05 E320 CDI - 86,000 miles '86 300SDL - 360,000 miles '85 300SD - 150,000 miles (sold) '89 190D - 120,000 miles (sold) '85 300SD - 317,000 miles (sold) '98 ML320 - 270,000 miles (sold) '75 300D - 170,000 miles (sold) '83 Harley Davidson FLTC (Broken again) :-( '61 Plymouth Valiant - 60k mikes 2004 Papillon (Oliver) 2005 Tzitzu (Griffon) 2009 Welsh Corgi (Buba) |
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