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KirkVining 11-14-2004 04:22 PM

Sex Offender DB on the net
 
Here's something that might be worth the 10 bucks:

http://www.nationalalertregistry.com/cgi-bin/NAR_guest.cgi?GID=TkFSU3xDTU5BUjd8fHx8MXw=&current=new_index

webwench 11-14-2004 04:30 PM

A lot of states have their databases online for free. Might check for a free db for your state first...

Have there been any reports of 'vigilante justice' meted out to people whose pics and addresses are posted on these sites? It has occurred to me that these people could easily be targeted by their neighbors in ways that go beyond embarrassing leaflets.

MedMech 11-14-2004 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by webwench
A lot of states have their databases online for free. Might check for a free db for your state first...

Have there been any reports of 'vigilante justice' meted out to people whose pics and addresses are posted on these sites? It has occurred to me that these people could easily be targeted by their neighbors in ways that go beyond embarrassing leaflets.

Michigan has had the database for 5 years there have not been any problems so far.

One flaw that I think has been corrected is public urination offenders were listed with the bad guys.

KirkVining 11-15-2004 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webwench
A lot of states have their databases online for free. Might check for a free db for your state first...

Have there been any reports of 'vigilante justice' meted out to people whose pics and addresses are posted on these sites? It has occurred to me that these people could easily be targeted by their neighbors in ways that go beyond embarrassing leaflets.

Have you ever used one? They are difficult to use. For 10 bucks, they add all kinds of searchability. I've got two kids under 8 years of age, and a freaking sewer of humanity flows thru Houston to begin with. I don't know if my liberal sensibilities will be offended if the guy's house is set on fire or if he is found dangling from a tree. I worked in social services at one point with these type of characters, and came away with the opinion that certain classes of offenders should never be let out. I don't think there is any such thing as a "first offender" child molester who should only get 5 or 10 years, same thing with violent rapists. They should never get out. Never. They have an incurable criminal mental illness. If the states aren't smart enough to do that, then this is the best I can hope for.

Kuan 11-15-2004 08:32 AM

Mercedessop member W126 alerted me that Helmut Mauer, who owned the only indy MB only shop in Minnesota was caught with child porn. They're everywhere, I wonder if this guy did anything else and wasn't caught. Imagine all the folks going into his shop with little kids and all.

http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_234141458.html

sfloriII 11-15-2004 09:45 AM

Last year Spock posted a link to find sex offenders in your area.

I did a search of Reston, VA. Luckily, there aren't any too near to me. But while looking through the database, I found out that my best friend, who lives in a group house nearby, has a convicted rapist for a housemate!! :mad:

The guy's a real jerk, stays out late all the time, and usually comes home drunk.

Fortunately, my friend is buying a house and will be out of there soon!

G-Benz 11-15-2004 11:01 AM

My wife did a search a couple of years ago on one of the free links and found that a guy leasing a house just across the street from ours was a registered sex offender...he molested a 9-year old girl...our daughter was 9 back then!

The thing was, he was prosecuted and did time almost a decade ago, so it may have been water under the bridge. Still, my wife alerted the rest of the neighborhood, and the first action was to move the school bus stops (which the first was in front of his house).

This guy lived with his girlfriend and mom, and pretty much kept to himself. Fortunately they moved out about a month later when their house construction was completed.

People usually profile a sex offender as some dirty homeless-looking drug and alcohol-addicted freak! But we live in a nice neighborhood, and the home he was renting was a pricey one. The house he finished building was even more expensive! And the few times I saw him puttering around the garage, he would have blended in well with the rest of the community.

KirkVining 11-15-2004 02:05 PM

Yes, they are everywhere and they could be anybody. Here in Houston they nailed one guy who was a right-wing talk radio host who liked to flash kids. You really never know. Like I said, its a mental illness more than a criminal behavior, and I think it is incurable so they should be locked up forever.

el presidente 11-15-2004 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KirkVining
Yes, they are everywhere and they could be anybody. Here in Houston they nailed one guy who was a right-wing talk radio host who liked to flash kids. You really never know. Like I said, its a mental illness more than a criminal behavior, and I think it is incurable so they should be locked up forever.

Haven't some jurisdictions considered chemical castration?

KirkVining 11-15-2004 03:24 PM

Its legal in Texas, but it has to be voluntary. I don't think it works. We had one taker, they let him out, and he just committed more crimes, a couple were violating parole restrictions like hanging around playgrounds and such. Sex gratification is only part, and it may not even be a necessary part, of this mental illness. Like rape, its really all about exerting power over the powerless. One theory is that our innate predatory instinct, surppressed by eons of civilization, has gone haywire in child molestors and rapists. They are in effect, predators among us as dangerous as wolves or lions running loose in a shopping mall. Until we find some type of cure, we should deal with them only one way -lock em up, throw away the key. This is not criminal behavior in some wayward youth who might change his way - it is permenant behavior.

el presidente 11-15-2004 03:28 PM

I'm planning a family soon. I hope I'll never have to encounter one of these freaks :uzi:

KirkVining 11-15-2004 03:39 PM

Here's a link on the nutless wonder I was talking about:

http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/relatedarticles/26457.php

Dude, I've raised 5 boys. We watch them like hawks. The days when they could just roam the neighbors on bicycles are over. Everything I let them do now until they are full grown is supervised, and I admint, I get worried when they walk a few doors down to the neighbors. It's not surprising - years ago experiments with lab animals show that as population denisty rises, this type of behavior increases. Since it is on an upward curve, take the necessary precautions.

Jason Beal 11-15-2004 03:47 PM

I did a search for local sexual predators and was surprised to see how many lived so close to me. One, right between where my daughter would walk to school. The site even said what car the person drove, and when I drove by the house, sure enough the truck was there.

On the other hand I saw (on the website, it had each charge and explanation of that charge) a 19yr old boy/man who had sex with an underage girl. But he was now on the sexual predator list. Since the girl was 15 or 16, is this the same thing?

The other night I saw a show about police stings. One was busting men having sex in a public restroom that was known for such. The men were arrested throughout the day, and said they would end up on the sexual predator list. In your opinion, is this the same thing?

I certainly don't think that two men should be having sex in a public place. They should be arrested for that crap. But should they be labeled a sexual predator for the remainder of their life? How about a 19 yr old kid who has sex with a girl who is still in HS? Is he really a sexual predator? An idiot maybe, but a predator? What are your thoughts?

To me these people are not the same as somebody who commits lewd acts on kids. Which I believe has no cure either.

KirkVining 11-15-2004 03:59 PM

I don't know man, I knew when I was 18 that 15 would get you 20, and I never dipped into the sweet stuff after that age, because prison seemed less appealing than college. I spent that period of my life in Florida and Texas, states that really enforced statutory laws, and I was smart enough to figure out how to stay out of the local paper, not to mention southern prisons, where a skinny ass yankee white boy was going to get a first hand education on sex crime. Perhaps there should be a provision where the guy can appeal to the judge during his trial that the circumstances don't warrant being included being on the list.

MedMech 11-15-2004 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by narwhal
I have posted before that I am wishy-washy on the death penalty. I am unequivocably in favor of the death penalty for child molesters.


Ditto that F-um.

A freind of mine is a sheriffs department detective, he was interviewing an ass that admitted to intercourse with his 14 year old daughter. She told the investigator that he also sodomized her, when the investigator asked him about it he said..."I would never do something like that to my daughter" As if it's OK to just have sex. :behead:

He told me this story to make his point that I could never be a cop because he know's that there is no way I could restrain myself from killing the SOB.

TwitchKitty 11-15-2004 07:31 PM

Last time we were in Maine I saw a newspaper article that said they had just raised the age of consent to 16 from 13, couldn't believe it.

KirkVining 11-15-2004 09:05 PM

Consent ages are low in a lot of states. You must keep in mind the reason for it - many people actually got married at those ages back when people went to work at 14 and life expectancies were much lower.

Botnst 08-03-2006 10:40 AM

Ohio Man Claims Right To Have Sex With Boys
Admitted Pedophile Says Children Can Consent

POSTED: 6:52 am EDT August 3, 2006
CLEVELAND -- It was probably not a defense the court had heard before.

A suburban Cleveland man accused of sexually assaulting nine disabled boys told a judge Wednesday that his apartment was a religious sanctuary where smoking marijuana and having sex with children are sacred rituals protected by civil rights laws.

The admitted pedophile offered a surprising defense Wednesday to 74 charges of rape, drugs and pandering obscenity to minors.
Click here to find out more!

Appearing in an Ohio court for a pretrial hearing, Phillip Distasio, 34, of Rocky River, Ohio, said he was a pedophile.

He told the judge, "I'm a pedophile. I've been a pedophile for 20 years. The only reason I'm charged with rape is that no one believes a child can consent to sex. The role of my ministry is to get these cases out of the courtrooms."

Distasio, a self-professed pagan friar, is representing himself on 74 charges. He said he's the leader of a church called Arcadian Fields Ministries, and that some of his congregants are among the victims in his case.

The judge told Distasio to confine his arguments to secular laws at his trial, scheduled to begin Sept. 11.

"If you want to challenge the law, that's your right to do so," Judge Kathleen Sutula said. "But we're going to follow the laws of Ohio in this courtroom."

Cuyahoga County Bill Mason said Distasio was arrested after he wanted to write a blog for the Lakewood Library. Officials noticed something was wrong and notified Rocky River police.

Distasio was arrested on charges he molested two disabled boys he was tutoring at his home. He's also accused of raping seven other autistic children at a Cleveland school for special-needs students, The Plain Dealer reported. All but one of the boys was under 13, which carries a mandatory life-in-prison sentence if he is convicted, the paper reported.

Police said they found journals at Distasio's apartment in which he described his illegal activities, along with child pornography and videotapes of him engaged in sex with boys, The Plain Dealer reported

"Not all pedophilia is bad, and sex [with boys] can be healthy," Distasio told the court.

According to the journals, two of Distasio's victims were so helpless they could never tell anyone what happened.

"The defendant describes acts in which he had autistic children and he did what I would call sadistic sexual acts with these children," said Mason.

The school he ran from his apartment was called Class Cutters. According to Distasio's Web site, students and parents chose the curriculum in the school for unique children.

But prosecutors said it was little more than a trap that snared one victim and then another.

"Like all predators, he used this one child to bring other children to him and that's what was happening, and that's how he got his second victim," said Mason.

And prosecutors believe there may be more victims.

Distasio has a history of working with children dating back 10 years.

Prosecutors said he could be sentenced to life in prison if convicted.

Carleton Hughes 08-03-2006 10:50 AM

UUggghhhh!!!!!

Allright,so they're "mentally ill" and most are recidivists and cannot benefit from "rehabilitation".

Does not society then have a right,nay,a moral obligation to get rid of the dross,eliminate the problem at the source to nullify the threat they pose to us?

Mistress 08-03-2006 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KirkVining
Have you ever used one? They are difficult to use. For 10 bucks, they add all kinds of searchability. I've got two kids under 8 years of age, and a freaking sewer of humanity flows thru Houston to begin with. I don't know if my liberal sensibilities will be offended if the guy's house is set on fire or if he is found dangling from a tree. I worked in social services at one point with these type of characters, and came away with the opinion that certain classes of offenders should never be let out. I don't think there is any such thing as a "first offender" child molester who should only get 5 or 10 years, same thing with violent rapists. They should never get out. Never. They have an incurable criminal mental illness. If the states aren't smart enough to do that, then this is the best I can hope for.


Apparently they now have a database that is Nation wide concerning this matter and all levels of criminals are listed not just the ones they consider dangerous. Check the Americas Most Wanted website for information.

Mistress 08-03-2006 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Carleton Hughes
UUggghhhh!!!!!

Allright,so they're "mentally ill" and most are recidivists and cannot benefit from "rehabilitation".

Does not society then have a right,nay,a moral obligation to get rid of the dross,eliminate the problem at the source to nullify the threat they pose to us?

Is it ture that chemical castration(sp) doesn't always work?

Carleton Hughes 08-03-2006 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Siduri19
Is it ture that chemical castration(sp) doesn't always work?

I am by nature skeptical of most modern innovations.

O.K.You don't wanna deep six'em,well then,put'em to work in southern Texas in july and august digging drainage ditches or repairing heat buckled roads,THAT will separate the men from the boys,no pun or double-entendre intended.

Mistress 08-03-2006 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carleton Hughes
I am by nature skeptical of most modern innovations.

O.K.You don't wanna deep six'em,well then,put'em to work in southern Texas in july and august digging drainage ditches or repairing heat buckled roads,THAT will separate the men from the boys,no pun or double-entendre intended.

You mean like something out of a James Lee Burke prison chain gang type of work? From what I understand, there is a code of ethics in prison and pedophiles are not tolerated and will be killed. I am looking forward to sipping Manhattan's this weekend on the beach BTW.

Carleton Hughes 08-03-2006 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Siduri19
You mean like something out of a James Lee Burke prison chain gang type of work? From what I understand, there is a code of ethics in prison and pedophiles are not tolerated and will be killed. I am looking forward to sipping Manhattan's this weekend on the beach BTW.

Good,nature taking care of it's own.

Enjoy your vacation and DO NOT use more vermouth than I recommended.

John Doe 08-03-2006 11:18 AM

Yes, I would really pull the trigger on this guy. Myself.

Mistress 08-03-2006 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carleton Hughes
Good,nature taking care of it's own.

Enjoy your vacation and DO NOT use more vermouth than I recommended.


No, No when I make a martini the vermouth is just lightly coated on the inside of the pre-chilled shaker.

Carleton Hughes 08-03-2006 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Siduri19
No, No when I make a martini the vermouth is just lightly coated on the inside of the pre-chilled shaker.

Yes,but don't forget the all-important caveat of having pre-chilled glasses,remember,straight-up,no ice in the glasses,only in the shaker.

John Doe 08-03-2006 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Siduri19
No, No when I make a martini the vermouth is just lightly coated on the inside of the pre-chilled shaker.


Whoa there sister, don't give Carleton a heart-attack!!!! Manhattan has sweet vermouth. If you even wave sweet vermouth over a martini glass or its shaker, you must throw it into the fireplace and start over:D


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