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Old 11-24-2004, 05:34 PM
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Neat bumper sticker I saw today

"Politicians prefer unarmed peasants"

Makes you think doesn't it? I can't help but wonder if all those I Iraqi "insurgents" had had all the firepower they currently have then why didn't they overthrow Saddam theirselves?

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Old 11-24-2004, 05:46 PM
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The Iraqis were as well armed under Saddam as they are today. To rule an armed society, you simply carry out military style operations against the populace.

The problem with these theories is the word "society". Heavily armed populaces are not exactly a good thing when societies are deeply divided.
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Old 11-24-2004, 05:50 PM
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"Politicians prefer unarmed peasants"

Makes you think doesn't it? I can't help but wonder if all those I Iraqi "insurgents" had had all the firepower they currently have then why didn't they overthrow Saddam theirselves?
So this is why those oppressed English don't revolt.
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They had a lot, but Sadam had more bigger better. I remember he was into heavy artilary which was more than what they have found from the insergents.
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Old 11-24-2004, 06:09 PM
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Heavily armed populaces are not exactly a good thing when societies are deeply divided.
Put that way it could lead to a civil war.
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Old 11-24-2004, 06:16 PM
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I think the only reason we haven't had one here is because the left is not armed.
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Old 11-24-2004, 06:20 PM
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They had a lot, but Sadam had more bigger better. I remember he was into heavy artilary which was more than what they have found from the insergents.

That's the way it works in all third world countries. Most all Latin American countries allow easy ownership of weapons. That is why the army is used as a national police force in those countries, and across the rest of the third world. They don't care if you got guns, some death squad is going to pop you when you step outside your front door, or the army is going to shell your town. In Guatemala, they were notorious for strafing civilians with surplus P-51 mustangs.

Communist countries on the other hand, were well known for gun confiscation.
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Old 11-24-2004, 06:51 PM
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Only the left and the Nazis want disarmed citizens..................
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:19 PM
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The "Left" reporting for duty. Armed with my single shot Stevens 22 cal. 'plinker'.
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Old 11-24-2004, 09:01 PM
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I knew you couldn't stay away from that one.

Funny how the left thinks their 1st amendment rights are so sacred yet campain so hard to deny everyone their 2nd amendment rights......

Take away one the other will soon be lost too.
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I think the only reason we haven't had one here is because the left is not armed.
YET!....
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Old 11-24-2004, 11:57 PM
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The Iraqis were as well armed under Saddam as they are today.
not really at all. only soldiers had them (most Sunni) and some Kurdish revolutionaries but Sad gave out AK47s right before US invasion (general amnesty too) like we give out candy on Halloween.
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I have been reading on DU when Bush won that they finally saw what the right saw in guns. But, they just had to mention that once they were through, that guns would be banned because then society would be perfect. :



And the insurgents got most of their weapons from the ammodumps. Our soldiers have been (tragically) destroying genuine AK47s (instead of shipping them here to be sold on the Class3 market) STILL IN THEIR FREAKING WRAPPER!!! We just haven't been committing the gregious sin of destroying the rifles quickly enough to keep them out of insurgent hands.
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Old 11-25-2004, 05:25 AM
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I have been reading on DU when Bush won that they finally saw what the right saw in guns. But, they just had to mention that once they were through, that guns would be banned because then society would be perfect. :



And the insurgents got most of their weapons from the ammodumps. Our soldiers have been (tragically) destroying genuine AK47s (instead of shipping them here to be sold on the Class3 market) STILL IN THEIR FREAKING WRAPPER!!! We just haven't been committing the gregious sin of destroying the rifles quickly enough to keep them out of insurgent hands.
Michael Savage has done more to change the mind of Democrats on the gun issue in two years than 40 years of the NRA. You listen to him, or Gallegher, and a lot of the other far-right AM radio nuts, you hear them calling fo mass arrests and camps for "filthy lying liberal scum" - about 20 minutes of that and the wisdom of the 2nd Amendment dawns on them. I tell all my democrat friends to not only stop advocating gun control, but to get a gun and learn how to use it.

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