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Old 02-09-2005, 10:04 PM
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hear about the lunatic in FL today? shot 3 cops, killed one

i was about 10 miles from all this today....happened in Paisley,FL....police responded to a domestic disturbance call and were ambushed when they arrived....guy shot one cop in the head, killing him...shot another in the face, shoulder and leg, in critical condition...two others were shot as well...this guy booby trapped his whole property and two of the cops were injured when they tried to give chase....he took off on a dirtbike with 2 shotguns, about 4 handguns, and a backpack full of ammo....they didnt catch him until about 5 o'clock today...all this went down around 9 AM....they found the guy in the woods about 300 yards from his house....

now heres a twist, as if this story needed one....i was out on deliveries at around 10:30 this morning when my partner got a call from his mom, telling him about all this that was going on.....he starts telling me that this guy has shot 3 cops, killed one...set up explosives all in his yard, and was on the loose....says the guys name is jason wheeler and lived on SR 44....my sister is married, but seperated, to a guy named jason wheeler...and he lives off of 44....and hes not what youd call the most emotionally stable person in the world....turns out it was a different guy, but i was in a world of pain and the most anger and rage ive ever felt in my life welled up inside of me....i immediately called my sister, no answer....im freaking the hell out right now....i call my mother and she tells me before i even have a chance to say anything,"its not Jason, its some other jason wheeler....i just talked to him"...she was watching it on the news....i cant explain the feeling i had between the time i heard what was going on and when i finally realized it was someone else....i hope i never, ever have to feel that again....my first thought was that im about to go look for this person to kill them...someone i knew, and was at one time a good friend to....so thats how the first part of my day went...i hope none of you have to feel what i did today, even if it was for only a few minutes....that few minutes was pure hell for me

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Old 02-09-2005, 10:15 PM
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heres the story....looks like he wasnt found 300 yards from his house, more like six miles....i was just going by what little bit i got from the radio today....first story ive read about this....

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,146862,00.html
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Old 02-09-2005, 10:27 PM
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He sure planned that thing. Wonder what the rest of the story is.
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Old 02-10-2005, 12:21 PM
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more about the evil amongst us....

The NY times had an article about psychopaths, including a reference to a "psychopathy checklist"

Here's the article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/08/health/psychology/08evil.html?pagewanted=1

Here's a couple takes on the psychopathy checklist:

see http://faculty.ncwc.edu/toconnor/301/psycpath.htm
see http://www.karisable.com/crmh.htm

Wonder if this test will be added as part of school curricula??

Here's some excerpts from the NY Times article referenced above

Researchers have found that some people who commit violent crimes are much more likely than others to kill or maim again, and one way they measure this potential is with a structured examination called the psychopathy checklist.

As part of an extensive, in-depth interview, a trained examiner rates the offender on a 20-item personality test. The items include glibness and superficial charm, grandiose self-worth, pathological lying, proneness to boredom and emotional vacuity. The subjects earn zero points if the description is not applicable, two points if it is highly applicable, and one if it is somewhat or sometimes true.

The psychologist who devised the checklist, Dr. Robert Hare, a professor emeritus at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, said that average total scores varied from below five in the general population to the low 20's in prison populations, to a range of 30 to 40 - highly psychopathic - in predatory killers. In a series of studies, criminologists have found that people who score in the high range are two to four times as likely as other prisoners to commit another crime when released. More than 90 percent of the men and a few women at the top of Dr. Stone's hierarchy qualify as psychopaths.

In recent years, neuroscientists have found evidence that psychopathy scores reflect physical differences in brain function. Last April, Canadian and American researchers reported in a brain-imaging study that psychopaths processed certain abstract words - grace, future, power, for example - differently from nonpsychopaths.

No one knows how significant these differences are, or whether they are a result of genetic or social factors. Broken homes and childhood trauma are common among brutal killers; so is malignant narcissism, a personality type characterized not only by grandiosity but by fantasies of unlimited power and success, a deep sense of entitlement, and a need for excessive admiration.

Checklists, scales, and other psychological exams are not blood tests, however, and their use in support of a concept as loaded as evil could backfire, many psychiatrists say. Not all violent predators are psychopaths, for one thing, nor are most psychopaths violent criminals. And to suggest that psychopathy or some other profile is a reliable measure of evil, they say, would be irresponsible and ultimately jeopardize the credibility of the profession

The doctors who argue that evil has a place in forensics are well aware of these risks, but say that in some cases they are worth taking. They say it is possible - necessary, in fact, to understand many predatory killers - to hold inside one's head many disparate dimensions: that the person in question may be narcissistic, perhaps abused by a parent, or even charming, affectionate and intelligent, but also in some sense evil. While the term may not be appropriate for use in a courtroom or a clinical diagnosis, they say, it is an element of human nature that should not be ignored.
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Old 02-13-2005, 03:58 AM
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a guy got shot right outside my fence tuesday morning. now thats sumthing to wake up to.

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