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MedMech 07-15-2005 05:27 PM

Horse Play gone bad.....very bad.
 
Enumclaw-area animal-sex case investigated

By Jennifer Sullivan


King County sheriff's detectives are investigating the owners of an Enumclaw-area farm after a Seattle man died from injuries sustained while having sex with a horse boarded on the property.

Investigators first learned of the farm after the man died at Enumclaw Community Hospital July 2. The county Medical Examiner's Office ruled that the death was accidental and the result of having sex with a horse.

A surveillance camera picked up the license plate of the car that dropped the man off at the hospital, which led detectives to the farm and other people involved, said sheriff's Sgt. John Urquhart.

Deputies don't believe a crime occurred because bestiality is not illegal in Washington state and the horse was uninjured, said Urquhart.

But because investigators found chickens, goats and sheep on the property, they are looking into whether animal cruelty — which is a crime — was committed by having sex with these smaller, weaker animals, he said.

The farm was talked about in Internet chat rooms as a destination for people looking to have sex with livestock, he said.

"A significant number of people, we believe, have likely visited this farm," said Urquhart.

The Humane Society of the United States intends to use the case during the next state legislative session as an example of why sex with animals should be outlawed in Washington, said Bob Reder, a Humane Society regional director in Seattle.

"This and a few other cases that we have will allow us a platform to talk about sex abuse of animals," Reder said.

Thirty-three states ban sex with animals, he said.

Susan Michaels, co-founder of local animal-rights organization Pasado's Safe Haven, said she has been fighting to have bestiality made illegal. "It's animal cruelty behind closed doors," Michaels said.

Jennifer Sullivan: 206-464-8294 or

elau 07-15-2005 06:08 PM

Serves him right. Wish it happens to that $hit head in S.C. who raped a dog. Don't you wonder why the heck that dog did not turn and bite his wee wee off?

MedMech 07-15-2005 06:26 PM

I meant very.........I've been reading BHD posts so give me a break.

boneheaddoctor 07-15-2005 07:45 PM

Was this guy related in any way to a certain recent ex-president with a wife in the senate?

MTI 07-15-2005 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
Was this guy related in any way to a certain recent ex-president with a wife in the senate?

Don't you know . . . that's why "Buddy" had is so called "accident" . . . it was all a cover to prevent him from spilling his loose Labrador tongue to Novak . . . :P

boneheaddoctor 07-15-2005 07:53 PM

I find it odd a state that loves to micromanage its residents doesn't consider animal rape a crime? Maybe its a favorite passtime at the state legislature get togethers?

MTI 07-15-2005 07:58 PM

I'm more surprised you're not more well versed on the subject and many of your other posts would seem to suggest. ;)

Just in Case You Wanted to Check Your State

H-townbenzoboy 07-15-2005 08:04 PM

In my best lil' old lady voice... now that's just "nassy". :pukeface:

Lebenz 07-15-2005 08:05 PM

In Encmclaw?!? Uh, where was this article published?

MedMech 07-15-2005 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lebenz
In Encmclaw?!? Uh, where was this article published?


Seattle Times.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002382718_horse15m.html

boneheaddoctor 07-15-2005 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTI
I'm more surprised you're not more well versed on the subject and many of your other posts would seem to suggest. ;)

Just in Case You Wanted to Check Your State

not for me.....thats mighty sick stuff. The subject is repulsive.

I'm surprised its legal in that many states...

Botnst 07-15-2005 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elau
Serves him right. Wish it happens to that $hit head in S.C. who raped a dog. Don't you wonder why the heck that dog did not turn and bite his wee wee off?

The ***** liked it on all fours?

Brian Carlton 07-15-2005 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulC

I'm still trying to understand how this man died from this event. I can only surmise that the horse was on top.

The horse kicked him. A well placed kick from a horse that wants to hurt you will likely be fatal.

boneheaddoctor 07-15-2005 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton
The horse kicked him. A well placed kick from a horse that wants to hurt you will likely be fatal.

I guess he wasn't doing it right and he got "Nagged" to death..

Botnst 07-15-2005 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
I guess he wasn't doing it right and he got "Nagged" to death..

Bwah-haha!

Brian Carlton 07-15-2005 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
I guess he wasn't doing it right and he got "Nagged" to death..

...........that the voice of experience talking?? :D :D :D

boneheaddoctor 07-15-2005 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton
...........that the voice of experience talking?? :D :D :D

not hardly..............

J. R. B. 07-15-2005 09:48 PM

And then there is the sheep named--Sue Ellen Ewing. :pukeface:

TwitchKitty 07-16-2005 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
I'm surprised its legal in that many states...

I think it is a sick, sad statement that 33 states felt a need to write laws against it.

sfloriII 07-16-2005 12:12 PM

This case reminds me of one I have some familiarity with.

One of the producers I work for occasionally at the IRS television studios in MD was dating a guy not too long ago. She has a cat that was having problems, so she took it to the vet.

They discovered, due to internal injuries, that the cat was being raped. So she set up an audio recorder in her house that would turn on if there was any loud noise. Sure enough, her loser live-in boyfriend was raping her cat! How this works phsically-- I don't even want to think about!

To make a long story short, they had to put the cat down. The guy was convicted of animal cruelty and sentenced to three months in jail. Everyone in his small town knows what a pervert he is.

They should have castrated him. :mad:

I couldn't find info on the case, but it took place in Ellicott, MD. I'm pretty sure PETA had their people involved.

Hopefully she won't date anymore losers, but she has a pattern.

Botnst 07-16-2005 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfloriII
This case reminds me of one I have some familiarity with.

One of the producers I work for occasionally at the IRS television studios in MD was dating a guy not too long ago. She has a cat that was having problems, so she took it to the vet.

They discovered, due to internal injuries, that the cat was being raped. So she set up an audio recorder in her house that would turn on if there was any loud noise. Sure enough, her loser live-in boyfriend was raping her cat! How this works phsically-- I don't even want to think about!

To make a long story short, they had to put the cat down. The guy was convicted of animal cruelty and sentenced to three months in jail. Everyone in his small town knows what a pervert he is.

They should have castrated him. :mad:

I couldn't find info on the case, but it took place in Ellicott, MD. I'm pretty sure PETA had their people involved.

Hopefully she won't date anymore losers, but she has a pattern.

Some guys just love pussy.

Hey, somebody had to say it.

Bot

Brian Carlton 07-16-2005 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst
Some guys just love pussy.

Hey, somebody had to say it.

Bot

Careful.........you'll get yourself banned...........again. :eek:

mzsmbs 07-16-2005 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTI
I'm more surprised you're not more well versed on the subject and many of your other posts would seem to suggest. ;)

Just in Case You Wanted to Check Your State


KY and WV, who would have thunk it?... lol

dkveuro 07-16-2005 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. R. B.
And then there is the sheep named--Sue Ellen Ewing. :pukeface:


"Daddy....Daddy...daddy.....what's virgin wool ?"

"A sheep that can run faster than the shepherd, son."



.

laurencekarl 07-16-2005 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst
Some guys just love pussy.

Hey, somebody had to say it.

Bot

:D LOL I actually hadn't thought of that association.

Botnst 07-16-2005 06:47 PM

Good for you (really). The depths of depravity are best kept lonely.

Bot

cmac2012 07-16-2005 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. R. B.
And then there is the sheep named--Sue Ellen Ewing. :pukeface:

Beastiality theme song:

Ewe, ewe, ewe, I'm in love with ewe, ewe, ewe,
no one else will do, do, do, you wooly booger you.

Not that I attended the meetings or anything, just heard it at a concert once.

boneheaddoctor 07-16-2005 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwitchKitty
I think it is a sick, sad statement that 33 states felt a need to write laws against it.

Yes...but what about the 17 that felt it was OK to allow... :eek:

I worries me that these people walk the streets...and might even teach in our schools.

Carleton Hughes 07-16-2005 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmac2012
Beastiality theme song:

Ewe, ewe, ewe, I'm in love with ewe, ewe, ewe,
no one else will do, do, do, you wooly booger you.

Not that I attended the meetings or anything, just heard it at a concert once.

"oh,sh-t" said the horny ram as he galloped off the steep precipice, "I didn't see that ewe turn".

mikemover 07-17-2005 12:58 AM

Guy got what he deserved. :eek:

Social Darwinism at work once again....

Mike

aklim 07-18-2005 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTI
I'm more surprised you're not more well versed on the subject and many of your other posts would seem to suggest. ;)

Just in Case You Wanted to Check Your State

And you are familiar with this list, how again? You do live in one of those states where Beastiality is leagal huh? Did you move there "coincidently" or were you born there? :D :D

oxymoron 07-18-2005 12:07 PM

neigh means nay

aklim 07-18-2005 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oxymoron
neigh means nay

It could also be that the nag is playing hard to get? Maybe an apple or carrot or maybe a little sugar will soften her heart and make her say "yes"? :D :D

A horse is a horse, of course, of course,
And no one can talk to a horse of course
That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mr. Ed.

Go right to the source and ask the horse
He'll give you the answer that you'll endorse.
He's always on a steady course.
Talk to Mr. Ed.

People yakkity yak a streak and waste your time of day
But Mister Ed will never speak unless he has something to say.

A horse is a horse, of course, of course,
And this one'll talk 'til his voice is hoarse.
You never heard of a talking horse?

Well listen to this. I am Mister Ed.

Very important question. Was it a male horse or a female one?

aklim 07-18-2005 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmac2012
Beastiality theme song:

Ewe, ewe, ewe, I'm in love with ewe, ewe, ewe,
no one else will do, do, do, you wooly booger you.

Not that I attended the meetings or anything, just heard it at a concert once.

Whatever you say, Mr " Heard it at a concert" :D :D

Reminds me of the questions to the priest thing.

Boy: Father, I have to ask you a question. This is not for me but for a friend of mine. It goes like this.....

Priest: Sit on my lap or under the table and tell me about it then.

boneheaddoctor 07-18-2005 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklim

Very important question. Was it a male horse or a female one?

well THAT certainly takes it to a whole new level...we assume he was stomped to death or kicked......I had to go reread the article..and it was never specified...so maybe it was a male horse and he was the catcher and not the pitcher...

aklim 07-18-2005 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
well THAT certainly takes it to a whole new level...we assume he was stomped to death or kicked......I had to go reread the article..and it was never specified...so maybe it was a male horse and he was the catcher and not the pitcher...

If it was a male horse, either he was the receiever or the giver. If he was the receiever, he might be stomped. Would be harder to kick him. If he was the giver, he would more likely be kicked. If it was a female horse, why would he be under the horse? As such, he is more likely to be kicked. :D :D

boneheaddoctor 07-18-2005 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklim
If it was a male horse, either he was the receiever or the giver. If he was the receiever, he might be stomped. Would be harder to kick him. If he was the giver, he would more likely be kicked. If it was a female horse, why would he be under the horse? As such, he is more likely to be kicked. :D :D

Well I wasn't thinking the horse kicked or stomped him...more like impailed him...

the news article seemed to avoid saying stomped or kicked...maybe becasue it was neither.

aklim 07-18-2005 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
Well I wasn't thinking the horse kicked or stomped him...more like impailed him...

the news article seemed to avoid saying stomped or kicked...maybe becasue it was neither.

Maybe he gagged while doing a "deep throat" or gagged when he swallowed stuff down the wrong tube? :eek: :D :D

boneheaddoctor 07-18-2005 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklim
Maybe he gagged while doing a "deep throat" or gagged when he swallowed stuff down the wrong tube? :eek: :D :D

well I was thinking the other end..but thats just as likely......man there are sick people out there ..isn't there...

aklim 07-18-2005 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
well I was thinking the other end..but thats just as likely......man there are sick people out there ..isn't there...

Could be that he didn't lube the horse up enough and he split the colon and died of bleeding? Hospital should be able to stop that unless they were laughing too hard.

boneheaddoctor 07-18-2005 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklim
Could be that he didn't lube the horse up enough and he split the colon and died of bleeding? Hospital should be able to stop that unless they were laughing too hard.

thats assuming he was able to walk....and got somebodies attention in time...I thought they sort of found him there....

Don't they normally report so and so died after being kicked by a hourse or such......the story was mighty evasive on just what happened...I bet it was something like that...

laurencekarl 07-19-2005 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklim
Maybe he gagged while doing a "deep throat" or gagged when he swallowed stuff down the wrong tube?

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
well I was thinking the other end..but thats just as likely......man there are sick people out there ..isn't there...

:rolleyes:

:D

H2O2 07-19-2005 10:40 AM

I just love the headline
 
Roach seeks law against bestiality

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

AUBURN, Wash. -- Reports on an animal cruelty investigation at a farm near Enumclaw show Washington state needs a law against bestiality, state Sen. Pam Roach says.

Roach, R-Auburn, said Monday she plans to introduce legislation that would make it a Class C felony to have sex with an animal, punishable by as much as five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

More than 30 states have laws banning bestiality, including six that make it a felony.

Roach said her proposal also would make it a crime to videotape or distribute images of people engaging in sex with animals.

"These are sex acts against the innocent that have harmful effects," she said. "People of this mind are probably making money off the harm they do to animals."

Roach said her proposal was sparked by reports on a farm in her legislative district that King County sheriff's deputies and Enumclaw police said was known for bestiality and was cited on Internet sites catering to people who engage in sex with animals.

After a man died July 2 of internal bleeding from engaging in sex with a horse at the farm, investigators seized "hundreds and hundreds of hours" of videotape and found evidence that "people from all over the country" had gone to the farm to have sex with animals or watch others do so, police Cmdr. Eric Sortland said.

Investigators in the King County medical examiner's office ruled the death an accident. The videotapes have been referred to prosecutors for consideration of animal cruelty charges.

---

Information from: The News Tribune, http://www.thenewstribune.com

boneheaddoctor 07-19-2005 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by H2O2
Roach seeks law against bestiality

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

AUBURN, Wash. -- Reports on an animal cruelty investigation at a farm near Enumclaw show Washington state needs a law against bestiality, state Sen. Pam Roach says.

Roach, R-Auburn, said Monday she plans to introduce legislation that would make it a Class C felony to have sex with an animal, punishable by as much as five years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

More than 30 states have laws banning bestiality, including six that make it a felony.

Roach said her proposal also would make it a crime to videotape or distribute images of people engaging in sex with animals.

"These are sex acts against the innocent that have harmful effects," she said. "People of this mind are probably making money off the harm they do to animals."

Roach said her proposal was sparked by reports on a farm in her legislative district that King County sheriff's deputies and Enumclaw police said was known for bestiality and was cited on Internet sites catering to people who engage in sex with animals.

After a man died July 2 of internal bleeding from engaging in sex with a horse at the farm, investigators seized "hundreds and hundreds of hours" of videotape and found evidence that "people from all over the country" had gone to the farm to have sex with animals or watch others do so, police Cmdr. Eric Sortland said.

Investigators in the King County medical examiner's office ruled the death an accident. The videotapes have been referred to prosecutors for consideration of animal cruelty charges.

---

Information from: The News Tribune, http://www.thenewstribune.com

Well that certainly cleared up what really happened......I guessed right ....sick SOB that guy was....or anyone so hard up they rape animals.

aklim 07-19-2005 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
Well that certainly cleared up what really happened......I guessed right ....sick SOB that guy was....or anyone so hard up they rape animals.

No it doesn't. It doesn't specifically say whether the horse "did" him and caused an internal bleed or kicked him and/or stomped on him and ruptured something. Inquiring minds want to know.

I don't think it is so much hard up as a fetish. Some guys like big boobs, others like long legs, others like big wide butts and others like horses.

boneheaddoctor 07-19-2005 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aklim
No it doesn't. It doesn't specifically say whether the horse "did" him and caused an internal bleed or kicked him and/or stomped on him and ruptured something. Inquiring minds want to know.

I don't think it is so much hard up as a fetish. Some guys like big boobs, others like long legs, others like big wide butts and others like horses.

maybe not but there still has been no mention of stomping or kicking.....that to me is saying there is something they can't come right out and say.....

Keyser Soze 07-19-2005 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwitchKitty
I think it is a sick, sad statement that 33 states felt a need to write laws against it.

I think it is a sick, sad statement that the bible's writer felt a need to write laws against it. How sick was that dude to imagine such things in the first place?

BTW, cry your eyes out animal lovers, according to Leviticus 20:15, the horse shall be put to death!

20:15 And if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast.
20:16 And if a woman approach unto any beast, and lie down thereto, thou shalt kill the woman, and the beast: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


And people say I'm wicked?

Lebenz 10-18-2005 03:36 PM

Charge filed in connection with man who died having horse sex

The Associated Press

King County prosecutors have charged a man with trespassing in connection with an incident in which a friend was fatally injured having sex with a horse in Enumclaw.

James Michael Tait, 54, of Enumclaw, is accused of entering a barn without the owner's permission. If convicted he faces up to a year in jail and a $5,000 fine.

Prosecutors filed the charge today in county district court. Arraignment is scheduled for the week of Oct. 31. Tait does not have a listed phone number and it was not clear if he had obtained a lawyer.

Officers were told that Tait entered a neighbor's barn last July in Enumclaw along with the man who died so that the latter could have sex with a horse, charging papers said. Tait was videotaping the episode when the man received internal injuries that led to his death.

Officer were told that Tait, the man who died, and a third man sneaked into the barn repeatedly to have sex with horses, according to the documents. The third man was not charged with trespassing because investigators found no videotapes or other evidence that placed him in the barn on a specific date.

The prosecutor's office says no animal cruelty charges were filed because there was no evidence of injury to the horses.


http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002568970_webhorse18.html

Kuan 10-18-2005 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lebenz
The third man was not charged with trespassing because investigators found no videotapes or other evidence that placed him in the barn on a specific date.

Shouldn't that last part read "that specific date?" ;)

What a way to get dumped.

Botnst 10-18-2005 09:27 PM

Is it cruelty to a dog if she wanted it?

Gives 'choking the chicken' a whole new horizon.

B


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