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laurencekarl 07-30-2005 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kamil
Hey guys....(and girls)

I am sort of dissapointed this semester as I have worked really hard (3.74 GPA) and I was unable to get a scholarship. While going to school I have been working about 30 hours as well. I was pretty sure that my hard work would pay off and get at least some type of aid or grant. I just found out that I cannot get any type of money and the only thing my university can do for me is give me a loan that I will not have to pay for until I graduate.

I socialize with everyone and many african-americans brag about how they attend school for free. When I heard that my full attention was drawn to the person speaking. He was bragging about how all he has to do is keep up a C+ (2.5 GPA) and he will be attending school for free. This is not the first time I have heard people talk of things like that.

I am not racist in any way...I am just trying to find out some answers from you guys. What has happened to our education system, why do I have to work twice as hard ? I have yet to attend a college party or anything of that sort since I am either studying or working so "playing around" is out of the question.

The reason why I am so bummed about this is that I just found this out today that no scholarship or grant is available. When I came home I opened a letter from the school congratulating me on my DEANS LIST ACHIEVEMENT for the Spring semester. What a slap in the face...

I guess it's because I'm WHITE

:(

I am in the same exact situation. I don't think that being a minority would help so I would add modifying the government's view that someone is ineligible for aid based on their parent's wealth to the list. Not that it is right for it to be this unfair but you will only come out farther ahead I think.

Southern 07-30-2005 09:35 PM

I don't consider "White" or "Black" to be related to a race. Nor do I consider it appropriate to have it listed on a application. To be politically correct I am considered a Euro-American.

If it's any consideration my wife recently graduated from a local community college and didn't have to pay for any of her honers classes provided she maintained a 3.2 GPA. Now that she will be attending a state university in the fall, no more handouts.

boneheaddoctor 07-30-2005 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Southern
I don't consider "White" or "Black" to be related to a race. Nor do I consider it appropriate to have it listed on a application. To be politically correct I am considered a Euro-American.

If it's any consideration my wife recently graduated from a local community college and didn't have to pay for any of her honers classes provided she maintained a 3.2 GPA. Now that she will be attending a state university in the fall, no more handouts.

Well this white boy could get NO grants or scholarships, and all I got was student loans to finance my schooling even though my father was enemplyed for the entire time I was in college....

While a certain racial group were paid to sit in class and had free educations and all they had to do to get it was ask.

And most still did not go and whine today about how THEY are disadvantaged.

BusyBenz 07-30-2005 10:05 PM

Like I mentioned, implementing Affirmative Action wasn't wrong, if we had not, it would have suggested that we the white folk, were not going to recognize or include minorities, after giving them the rights to vote, and climb above from slavery! What kind of a nation would we be, a whites only nation, or Ku-Klux-Klan nation? If your interested in joining, go here http://www.kkklan.com/ if your a Neanderthal! :pukeface:

Reform my be in order here, not going backwards. It should be fare for every one, regardless of race!

boneheaddoctor 07-30-2005 10:09 PM

See what happens if we start a National Assosiation of White People....

Hell the Blacks are allowed to have their racist NAACP....that advocates rewards for mediocracy....


The Asians are smart enough to know what a waste that is....and the Hispanics would rather work for their money....

its only one group thats screaming for handouts.....to any real degree anyway.

Jim Crow laws went out before I was old enough to have body hair.....and that was a long time ago......afirmative action has no place in todays world.

kamil 07-30-2005 10:15 PM

:eek: :eek: :eek: some of you guys are more angered at this than I am :D

boneheaddoctor 07-30-2005 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kamil
:eek: :eek: :eek: some of you guys are more angered at this than I am :D

yeah...some of us are direct victims of reverse discrimination....

Southern 07-30-2005 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
See what happens if we start a National Assosiation of White People....

Hell the Blacks are allowed to have their racist NAACP....that advocates rewards for mediocracy....


The Asians are smart enough to know what a waste that is....and the Hispanics would rather work for their money....

its only one group thats screaming for handouts.....to any real degree anyway.

Jim Crow laws went out before I was old enough to have body hair.....and that was a long time ago......afirmative action has no place in todays world.

An Asian at work told me that the in America Asians are not considered minorities and therefore do not qualify for free handouts.

I wonder if Opera would qualify for a free ride?

boneheaddoctor 07-30-2005 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Southern
An Asian at work told me that the in America Asians are not considered minorities and therefore do not qualify for free handouts.

I wonder if Opera would qualify for a free ride?

Most Asians have superiour work ethics compared with joe average....and do well as a result...

I see Latin american immigrants do fairly well and even those who don't still have comendible work ethics...

these groups seem to do well even with language barriers...

yet a select group born and raised here seems to think they are entitled to handouts for the meer fact of something that happened before any living person was born...........and can't even be bothered to finish a free highschool education......sorry but I got real problems with handouts to high school drop-outs.

I was rasied to treat everyone equal...and I get burned when some people think they are owed handouts.


and yes I know there are lazy people of every racil and socio-economic background.

J. R. B. 07-31-2005 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by boneheaddoctor
See what happens if we start a National Assosiation of White People....








David Duke did. The National Association For The Advancement Of White People. NAAWP. He got thumped. I read about it a couple of years ago.

Botnst 07-31-2005 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by J. R. B.
David Duke did. The National Association For The Advancement Of White People. NAAWP. He got thumped. I read about it a couple of years ago.

That's right. The twerp played-upon the general resentment that offended whites felt toward affirmative action and it worked for a few years. Heck the bigot almost got elected governor (Republican) vs Edwin Edwards (Democrat), a crook. There were bumper stickers that said, "Vote for the Lizard, Not the Wizard."

It could easily happen by some evil person calling-upon latent racial resentment and hatred of foreigners/illegal aliens/Muslims/etc. There are LOTS of people who have a weakness for that kind of appeal.

Azimyth 07-31-2005 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Carleton Hughes
Anyone brave enough to have a go at "slavery reparations"????? :eek:

You know Carleton, when one douses a conflagration with excellerants, it is wise to stand waaaay back. :D

If reparations are to be paid, and I think it is only fair that they are, they should be universal and fair. I say universal in that they should be compensated who were oppressed in this country. That means Jews, Chinese, Irish, Italians, Africans, Native Americans, Mormons, Women etc. By Fair, I mean those who were actually oppressed should be compensated by those who actually oppressed.

If we intend to compensate individuals who are outside these parameters with assets from individuals who are themselves innocent of overt oppression, then we have a redistribution scam.

I have documented direct decendants who were oppressed and murdered Native Americans in my family as recently as the late 1800's/early 1900's. Should I receive reparations from you or anyone else? No, and I wouldn't accept them should they be awarded. Pay it to my Great Grandfather so and so Redfeather.

Craig 07-31-2005 12:56 AM

Hay Kamil,

Look what you started. :)

Craig

kamil 07-31-2005 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Craig
Hay Kamil,

Look what you started. :)

Craig

I know. :D I find people's posts amusing....very entertaining.

CJ 07-31-2005 01:08 AM

To be blunt AA sucks. You are either qualified or you are not. Period. We should not be lowering our standards to accomodate the people who can not meet them. I do not want to hear the whining and crying stories of how you don't have any money or this or that. It is all BS, people should try to not be so lazy and live on government handouts.

Both my parents came to the US right off the boat from Austria & Russia with only the clothes on their back. Both took a long time to learn the language and eventually ended up in Ivy League schools and being top professionals.

When it came to me I got no sympathy from them because I grew up speaking the English language and that was more than anything they were ever given so I received no handouts and have worked for everything I have and I appreciate everything I have accomplishd.

Maybe if others were stripped of certain things they take for granted, they would get off their a$$ and work.


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