"engineered" probably overstates the case, but the U.S. did express approval for the coup and when the coup ended 48 hours later, Condi Rice said that she hopes that it taught Chavez a lesson.

I posted a link in my prior post, but I'm not sure it is working properly. Try this one: link

If you were trying to keep it real and fair and balanced, you wouldn't have exaggerated his comment and you would read up on U.S. support for the 2002 coup in Venezuela before ridiculing him. U.S. support for the coup was real. Your sarcastic reference to "apparent cowards." is not.

Do you still think that the invasion of Iraq had anything to do with UN resolutions or WMD?

Sigh... those were the reasons given. I am sure you're well aware of this. No need to revisit that discussion AGAIN. There are no such reasons to knock-off Venezuela (that I am aware of). When Venezuela starts shooting at our airplanes, then we'll talk.

When we start flying airplanes over their sovereign territory without their permission, they may start shooting at us. The Iraq WMD argument always cracks me up. The argument implies a threat to the U.S. (otherwise, who cares?). Can we have a show of hands from folks who were actually living in fear of an attack upon U.S. soil from Iraq before the invasion?

Saddam agreed to fly-overs as a condition of the first gulf war.

The UN apparenlt agreed that the WMDs were a threat of some sort (hence the resolutions), but we're back to the old argument that'll get us nowhere.

I suspect you posed this question as a sort of joke; I'll assume as much, anyway. A quasi-nutty teevee Christian goes off his rocker and suddenly invading Venezuela is a cause of the right wing? Um... ok...

Often, your comments are well-made and thoughtful, even when I disagree with them. This thread really has me scratching my head.

Well, if you embrace the simple notion that the Iraq invasion is actually an attempt to stabilize an oil-rich region, the topic will make more sense. In any case, feel free to ignore it. I ignore lots of threads.

Fair enough.. ignore I shall. Good luck finding anyone who thinks chaging into Venezuela is a good idea. (Then, I doubt that was really your intention)

If jousting with shadows and strawmen is your thang, then go for it.

Well now, this nut job does has some influence on our current Administrations. GW's faith based policy has full backing from all the tv evangelists, and it was them who called for full Christian support for his second term. Nut job like that at times can be dangerous when they opened their mouths. Maybe it's time someone call to have him assisinated instead.

Yes, and the administration was so quick to agree with him... :rolleyes:

That's how I remember it, but I wasn't sure if it was Rice or Powell or Bush or some flack in State who was opining like a nincompoop on crack when he/she should've kept his/her mouth zippered.

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A budding Foggy Bottom genius.

Now I didn't say anybody was a coward, I said, "APPARENT." There's a big difference.

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It does not have more oil than Iraq. It currently supplies more oil to the US than Iraq, but Iraq has much,much more untapped reserves, reserves which the US right wing seem to think it is ok to steal.