Great Greenpeace Quote:

[sfloriII]

I saw this on a VW TDI forum today:

"After the last oil rig has been sunk, the last refinery blown up and the last gas station shut down, mankind will realise that one cannot stop at Greenpeace on the way home and purchase cold beer."

[cmac2012]

Profound misunderestimation of what Greenpeace is about.

[Hatterasguy]

Still funny!

I remember a few years back one of there ships was given a nice fine for the illegal discharge of oil in a port.

I really enjoy making fun of them and PETA.

[Botnst]

My favorite Greenpeace moment was when the French attacked their boat in Tahiti, and the French were victorious! They killed a sailor on the yacht when they surreptitiously planted an explosive onboard in order to disable the boat. the bomb was so large it destroyed the boat and killed at least one person.

By golly, when the French set their mind to defeat even the most dangerous, determiened enemy, their national honor will help them bravely endure!


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[Hatterasguy]

Its pretty sad when the French beat you.

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

Its pretty sad when the French beat you.

1er RPIMa is not a group anyone would want to f--- with.

Not kidding, I trained with Frech soldiers and although they are few in numbers they are ferocious fighters.

[TheDon]

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy

Its pretty sad when the French beat you.

whoa whoa whoa wait a minute.. the french actually won something... when did this frign happen?

Originally Posted by Botnst

My favorite Greenpeace moment was when the French attacked their boat in Tahiti, and the French were victorious! They killed a sailor on the yacht when they surreptitiously planted an explosive onboard in order to disable the boat. the bomb was so large it destroyed the boat and killed at least one person.

By golly, when the French set their mind to defeat even the most dangerous, determiened enemy, their national honor will help them bravely endure!


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And how the commandos were caught is the best part, it is almost a text book for all Special Forces soldiers.......#1 is the Iranian hostage mission, but that episode is a very close second.

[John Doe]

Originally Posted by cmac2012

Profound misunderestimation of what Greenpeace is about.

Oh don't be such a party-line old hippy. Those pricks are a hazzard to navigation and nothing more than a hobby for milfs in california that drive range rovers to their rallies. Are you a member?--they wouldn't take you at the poser chapters around here. They got their ass kicked on the GoM a few years back for messing around and tresspassing on an oil rig by the crew of a supply boat and later the USCG--guess their yacht ran out their on soy milk . One of the funniest tee shirts I ever saw was a picture of Mike Mover's Green Piece (gun) one. Iceholes are waayyy off their original target mission and responsible for a lot of vandalism.

[cmac2012]

Originally Posted by John Doe

Oh don't be such a party-line old hippy. Those pricks are a hazzard to navigation and nothing more than a hobby for milfs in california that drive range rovers to their rallies. Are you a member?--they wouldn't take you at the poser chapters around here. They got their ass kicked on the GoM a few years back for messing around and tresspassing on an oil rig by the crew of a supply boat and later the USCG--guess their yacht ran out their on soy milk . One of the funniest tee shirts I ever saw was a picture of Mike Mover's Green Piece (gun) one. Iceholes are waayyy off their original target mission and responsible for a lot of vandalism.

They're a bit woo-woo to be sure but fact is, our ocean's are in trouble -- serious trouble. The oceans are big but they're finite.

And now we have the low frequency sonar which is some kind of abomination to life in the sea. All sorts of sea life depend on sound for various vital functions and man, with his big brain, is not content to despoil and noise-i-fy vast portions of solid land, now he's putting out ear-splitting decibels in the ocean.

[Emmerich]

Originally Posted by cmac2012

They're a bit woo-woo to be sure but fact is, our ocean's are in trouble -- serious trouble. The oceans are big but they're finite.

And now we have the low frequency sonar which is some kind of abomination to life in the sea. All sorts of sea life depend on sound for various vital functions and man, with his big brain, is not content to despoil and noise-i-fy vast portions of solid land, now he's putting out ear-splitting decibels in the ocean.

FISH DON'T HAVE EARS.

[cmac2012]

Originally Posted by Emmerich

FISH DON'T HAVE EARS.

You're kidding, right?

These guys would disagree with you:

BIOLOGY OF FISH HEARING

Hearing and detection of vibrations are the best-developed senses in most fish, making use of the good propagation of low frequency sounds through water. The main sensory organs involved are the lateral-line system, which detects low-frequency (<100 Hz) particle motion in the water contacting the flanks of the fish, and the inner ear, located within the head of the fish, sensitive to frequencies of up to 1-3 kHz. The lateral line organ is almost certainly involved in acoustic repulsion when the sound source is at close quarters (within a few body lengths of the fish) but the inner ear is thought to be the main sensory organ involved. The inner ear, which lies within the skull of the fish is sensitive to vibration rather than sound pressure. In teleost species (bony fish) possessing a gas-filled swimbladder, this organ acts as transducer that converts sound pressure waves to vibrations, allowing the fish detect sound as well as vibration.

Sensitivity to noise and vibration differs among fish species, especially according to the anatomy of the swimbladder and its proximity to the inner ear. Species with no swimbladder (e.g. elasmobranchs) or a much reduced one (many benthic species including flatfish) tend to be of relatively low auditory sensitivity and may be only weakly repelled by acoustic deterrent systems other than those designed specifically for that purpose. Fish having a fully functional swimbladder tend to be much more sensitive. Best results are obtained with those species in which there is some form of close coupling between the swimbladder and the inner ear. In the clupeids (herring family), this takes the form of a gas duct connecting the swimbladder to the hearing system, whereas e.g. in cyprinid fish, a bony coupling is formed by the Weberian ossicles. This creates a super-league of hearing-sensitive fish. There are therefore three broad groups of low-, medium- and high-sensitivity.

The effect of the different anatomical types has been clearly shown at estuarine power station cooling water intakes fitted with acoustic deterrent systems. A feature of coastal and estuarine habitats is the high diversity of fish species. These are often drawn in large numbers and can quantified when collected from the plant's band- or drum-screens. Typically, long term monitoring at temperate locations will reveal between 30 and 90 different fish species. Their relative frequency an acoustic deterrent system turned on or off provides a good test of the different sensitivities.


I've heard recordings of species of shrimp that put out serious sound, used in mating. I'm assuming you know that sound travels very well in water.

Whales, not fish exactly, use hearing for navigation and communication. On a documentary about salmon farming, I heard a lady who studies whales say that after the farms starting using loud sounds to drive off seals/sea lions that were trying, successfully often, to get at the salmon, the whales that had been coming into that bay left and never came back.

The navy will tell you that the beachings of whales in the vicinity of testing of LFS are flukes. The flukes I'm interested in are parts of the whales' bodies.

Polar bears and rhinos are heading closer and closer to extinction. I don't want to see whales move in that direction also.

[cmac2012]

Originally Posted by Emmerich

FISH DON'T HAVE EARS.

Where'd ya go man? We need more pearls of wisdom.

[mikemover]

Originally Posted by cmac2012

They're a bit woo-woo to be sure but fact is, our ocean's are in trouble -- serious trouble. The oceans are big but they're finite.

And now we have the low frequency sonar which is some kind of abomination to life in the sea. All sorts of sea life depend on sound for various vital functions and man, with his big brain, is not content to despoil and noise-i-fy vast portions of solid land, now he's putting out ear-splitting decibels in the ocean.

Greenpeace, PETA, and other such organizations have an admittedly small, yet very visible, percentage of their membership who take radical, pseudo-militant actions in the name of their cause.

This makes them very easy targets for public ridicule (thus my "Green Piece" t-shirt. ), and serves to undermine whatever noble intentions may have been at the core of their efforts.

In other words.... similar to what "mainstream" Muslims around the world are doing nowadays... they are shooting themselves in the foot by failing to denounce or disassociate themselves from a few bad apples who do stupid things which spoil their credibility and foster public resentment and apathy.

Mike

[cmac2012]

Originally Posted by mikemover

Greenpeace, PETA, and other such organizations have an admittedly small, yet very visible, percentage of their membership who take radical, pseudo-militant actions in the name of their cause.

This makes them very easy targets for public ridicule (thus my "Green Piece" t-shirt. ), and serves to undermine whatever noble intentions may have been at the core of their efforts.

In other words.... similar to what "mainstream" Muslims around the world are doing nowadays... they are shooting themselves in the foot by failing to denounce or disassociate themselves from a few bad apples who do stupid things which spoil their credibility and foster public resentment and apathy.

The small percentage of over the top fools in Greenpeace do not change the fact that many, most worldwide fisheries are in serious decline. The healthy, vital Alaskan fisheries are under assault from abominable, assinine salmon farms and inland industrial development in Canada.

A few people get flaky? Oh well, I guess we don't have anything to worry about then.