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Old 01-19-2006, 03:56 PM
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Must be a generational thing...I thought opening doors for women was a GIVEN...at least that's what I was taught. And not just for a spouse or girlfriend either. When did this act of politeness become extinct?
When women wanted equal rights? I don't open the door for a guy, so why should I have to open the door for a girl?

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Old 01-19-2006, 04:05 PM
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Must be a generational thing...I thought opening doors for women was a GIVEN...at least that's what I was taught. And not just for a spouse or girlfriend either. When did this act of politeness become extinct?
its used to be a given, but anymore it just doesnt happen. it may just be a generational thing, who knows. but also, i still believe in the guy being the head of the relationship and what not. maybe i am just old fashion in that sense, but that, i feel, is how it should be. i agree with you though... not just for a spouse or a girlfriend, any guy should hold the door open for every women.
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Old 01-19-2006, 04:32 PM
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Whatever it is, it doesn't have to do with women's rights, equality or even gender. It has everything to do with civility and graciousness. I open the door for anyone who happens to be around when I'm going in/out of a door. Women, men, boys, girls, black, white, yellow, green, handicapped, athletic, whatever. If it happens that I can reach for a door handle and open it in time to let someone walk through, I do it. The tone implied (perhaps not meant) by aklim's reply that he doesn't do it for guys and what about women's equal rights claims is somewhat hostile. We're all rats in an ever-diminishing cage, so why make it any worse? Why not do simple little things, like opening doors, which make things better?

Bear with me a moment:

My son is about to interview with representatives of some of the colleges he's applied to. It's an incredible list; he worked much harder in high school than I ever dreamed of, never got less than an A and killed the SATS and SATIIs so his numbers are great. He's also a credible athlete, so he has nice options. Some of his interviews will involve having lunch or dinner with alums. His table manners are horrendous and this summer while he was with us, we got on him about cleaning them up. He thought we were nuts.

During a recent event which involved dinner, I couldn't believe it; he was seated by chance next to the very influential graduate of a college he'd like to attend (and where he'd like to play a revenue-producing sport), eating pasta with a knife. His comment to us during the summer was "if they judge me by my table manners, I don't want to be associated with them anyway." As my wife said to him - you've worked hard to get awesome grades, you studied hard to do well on the SATs, you've done community service out the ying-yang and you work your ass off in the weight room for your sport. Why? To give a positive impression, an advantage. To make yourself memorable. So your comportment in public, especially in a situation where you're trying to make an impression is also important - and it's also something relatively trivial and easy. It's really no skin off your nose."

Opening doors is a relatively trivial and easy thing to do, yet I think it carries with it a lot of positive things. Goodwill, or karma (whatever - I need for a lot of it on my side), even just a feeling of doing something for someone else.

I open doors for my wife in particular out of respect and love and wanting to remind her of those things in subtle ways. I'm not hanging on her like a puppy dog (I'm resisting a snide remark at this point), I'm just not afraid to be demonstrative in lots of different ways - ways that she enjoys and appreciates. I open doors for everyone else just to make the day seem a little brighter. (Hell, where I am right now, with rain 29 days out of the last 30, we could use it....)
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Old 01-19-2006, 04:45 PM
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(Hell, where I am right now, with rain 29 days out of the last 30, we could use it....)
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE send some of that rain down here! We get a brush fire every time someone farts in the wrong direction!
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Old 01-19-2006, 04:48 PM
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Must be a generational thing...I thought opening doors for women was a GIVEN...at least that's what I was taught. And not just for a spouse or girlfriend either. When did this act of politeness become extinct?
i open doors for my girlfriend all the time or any other girl im with .. i do alot of the things a gentleman is supposed to do. id address her father as sir but he doesnt prefer that so i just call him by his first name.. i pay for her movie ticket or stuff like that.
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Old 01-19-2006, 04:53 PM
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its used to be a given, but anymore it just doesnt happen. it may just be a generational thing, who knows. but also, i still believe in the guy being the head of the relationship and what not. maybe i am just old fashion in that sense, but that, i feel, is how it should be. i agree with you though... not just for a spouse or a girlfriend, any guy should hold the door open for every women.
I suppose if you are willing to put the guy as the head of the relationship and all that stuff, you are right to expect it. I am the head of our relationship in certain areas. In other areas, I just nod my head and try look like I understand it and when she gives me the subtle sign she agrees, I just say "I think we both agree that we should do X". I don't let her go to the mechanics and tell they anything. She picks up the car, pays for it but she is not to talk to the tech. I do that. I research the procedure and tell them what I want done. When I broke my leg, she picked the surgeon she wanted, told me what to tell them and I do it without adding my $0.02 worth. When she has a car issue, she tells me she sees a light and I take it from there. When I get metal shavings in my eyes or hands, she does what she thinks best to extract them. She tries to explain something to me about decorating the house or a medical thing, I nod my head every now and then and try look like I understand it. So who is the head of our relationship? It depends on the question being asked.
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G-Benz - You can have some of it, although we want plenty on hand in case we need it against Carolina on Sunday. Long-time Seattle-ites are probably thinking that the weather is punishment for the Seahawks being decent. My luck has been horrible. When I've travelled away from here on business to my other place in Northern California, it's been raining there. I'm thinking it's time for a long weekend in Arizona.
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Old 01-19-2006, 04:56 PM
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Whatever it is, it doesn't have to do with women's rights, equality or even gender. It has everything to do with civility and graciousness. I open the door for anyone who happens to be around when I'm going in/out of a door. Women, men, boys, girls, black, white, yellow, green, handicapped, athletic, whatever. If it happens that I can reach for a door handle and open it in time to let someone walk through, I do it. The tone implied (perhaps not meant) by aklim's reply that he doesn't do it for guys and what about women's equal rights claims is somewhat hostile. We're all rats in an ever-diminishing cage, so why make it any worse? Why not do simple little things, like opening doors, which make things better?
I meant I don't do it for women only. Under certain circumcisions , I open the door for others. However, I won't open the door for a person just because she is a woman. An exception is if she is pretty then it might give me a better view or the scenery. If I happen to be opening the door in a small town, I do it for anyone who is behind me because that is the way that small towns seem to work. In a larger city where I see others could care less, I don't bother either. however, the opening of the door for pretty girls still applies. Must be over 18 tho.
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Old 01-19-2006, 04:59 PM
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I meant I don't do it for women only. Under certain circumcisions , I open the door for others. However, I won't open the door for a person just because she is a woman. An exception is if she is pretty then it might give me a better view or the scenery. If I happen to be opening the door in a small town, I do it for anyone who is behind me because that is the way that small towns seem to work. In a larger city where I see others could care less, I don't bother either. however, the opening of the door for pretty girls still applies. Must be over 18 tho.

nice one i tend to keep it from 15-30 years.. unless stacy's mom is the one lol
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Old 01-19-2006, 05:02 PM
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nice one i tend to keep it from 15-30 years.. unless stacy's mom is the one lol
Who is Stacy and TTIWWP
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A nice rack and an "thing" for warsteiner.

Am I being too shallow?
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A nice rack and an "thing" for warsteiner.

Am I being too shallow?
You want her to have a "thing" for a type of beer?

Probably not.
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Old 01-19-2006, 05:15 PM
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Wow, alot of you guys are really nice compared to me. The funny thing is that I act like an @sshole to girls and I get way more of them than my friends who all try to be extremely nice. I don't know how that works out I get some really nice looking girls. I also have a girlfriend that puts up with an insane amount of crap from me.

I also like it when girls do this.......This one is a keeper since she's extremely smart. Ranked No.2 at Rutgers with a 4.0 GPA (never got lower than an A in college)....been with her for 3.5 years.

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Old 01-19-2006, 05:25 PM
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Who is Stacy and TTIWWP
TTIWWP ... duba ueewww teeee effff does that mean..


stacey's mom is an actress portrayed in fountain of waynes music video "stacey's mom".. let me tell you.. she has got it going on

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