AF secretary announces HIGH POWER MICROVWAVE BEAMS to be used on US crowds!@#!@#!@!@#
 

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/09/12....ap/index.html

Quote:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before being used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.

Acordiung to the RAYTHON site (http://www.raytheon.com/products/silent_guardian/) It LITERALLY cooks you. WTF? What are they getting prepared for?!@#?!@?#?!@#?!@?#

As a non-US citizen, I know I'd feel a lot more comfortable getting zapped with something that had already been used to zap rowdy US sports fans rioting after their team lost the world series.

Your link didn't work for me. Here is another:

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/09/12/usaf.weapons.ap/index.html

I just have to wonder, is turnabout fair play? Would it be ok for US citizens to test weapons on him?

Anyone see that South Park episode with the 'brown noise?'

I've heard that might be realistic some day.

I doubt it would see much use, though. Imagine the cleanup!

Twitch, I like your suggestion.

Where can I get one?
 

Hey, Ted, don't hog those. Where can I get one, you now . . . just in case. Mistress Heather has a neighbor who wears aluminum foil hats. Maybe she knows something WE don't!:eek:

Hey. This is serious business.

I do not mind the idea of the test just so long as Secretary Michael Wynne, Donald Rumsfeld, the Pres. and Vice Pres. are at the front of the test croud. Cheney's pace maker could possibly redirect the waves leaving him standing after the other four fall or run.:silly:

It's better than using bullets or fire hoses.

But it could melt the chocotale bar in my pocket.:rolleyes:

For God's sake! Just don't carry any popcorn in your pockets - imagine the carnage...

Hey Mistress has a Spring time hat just like that! Did you get that article off "The Onion?"

with or without nuts?

Not Hershey's. They are wrapped in aluminum foil, and the microwaves will bounce off and roast some other part of your body. :)

If you are part of a crowd of protestors, and you know such weapons will be in use, protest signs could be made with aluminum foil cores, to reflect the energy back to the source (or anywhere else for that matter).

Overall, I like the whole concept of non-lethal weapons, though I think sonic/ultrasonic devices would be more effective.

Regarding the Brown Noise, there evidently is such a frequency. Nicola Tesla used a vibrating platform in one of his experiments that apparently oscillated at a frequency which triggered urgent bowel movements. Probably a bad idea for crown control, unless you have a really crazy sense of humor.

I am amazed that there has not been much "sound gun" development. Using nothing but hollow tubes of various length and diameter (in proportion to the length of the sound wave you are projecting), and industrial strength speaker cones, you could do a LOT of damage.

Years ago, a former coworker told me of Army sound gun experiments he participated in at White Sands proving ground during the 1950's. In one, they blasted a reinforced concrete wall, which was pulverized, and then tested the device on a cow and a dog, both of which flew apart "like jigsaw puzzles" he claimed. All this from a short burst from a hollow tube the size of a firehose.

The downside was that the operators and observers had to remain in a shielded bunker, as you could not get near the device when it was operating.

ALWAYS with nuts.

If they use these things too liberally, though, no one will have to worry about crowd control for lack of crowds.

My only concern would be that the heat might set off the cartridges prematurely in my CCW.:D

[QUOTE=EricSilver;1275362]Not Hershey's. They are wrapped in aluminum foil, and the microwaves will bounce off and roast some other part of your body. :)

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The last Hershey bar I bought came in a modern plastic wrapper, what's next, no more Jiffy Pop?

You are so wrong. I'd take rubber bullets and firehoses over cooked skin.

I hear Jeb And George are going to test it out on Cindy Sheehan's next get together.

I'm thinking lead bullets. As for microwave cooking, people do that daily, to their brains, with cell phones.

This is hilarious! Where would I find a copy of this sound? This would be the best senior prank ever, sneak into office, plug ears, play brown noise to entire school!!

You are obsessed with Jiffy Pop! Where does that come from?

There are plenty of "volunteers" on death row across the country.

But wait a minute! That would be cruel and unusual. Guess we'll just have to do it the usual way, until the unusual becomes the usual.

That's a great picture of you Ted, it makes you look more "human" than your avatar does. :D

Gonna make microwaveable S'mores out of them?

BTW, clear your PM "store."

Not know what you question.

Tesla also claimed that he could use a "vibrator" (no funny puns here) to cause an earthquake.

The guys and gals at MythBusters gave it a try but it did not work.

I like the Brown Noise idea better. I wonder if those guys at MB will give it a try.

I guess that I was wrong, the Brown Note (Noise) theory was tested...

Brown note

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The brown note, according to an urban legend, is an infrasonic frequency that causes humans to lose control of their bowels due to resonance. The name is actually metonymy for a common color of feces. Effective frequencies are reportedly between 5 and 9 Hz, below the audible range for humans (generally humans cannot hear sounds below about 20 Hz). However, as the supposed effects are difficult to explain through known medical science and have yet to be verifiably reproduced in a controlled environment, most medical professionals are of the opinion that the brown note, at least as described in the legend, does not exist.

The brown note is unrelated to brown noise.

Testing

The note was tested on the television show MythBusters using Meyer Sound subwoofers on par in quantity and quality with those used at major rock concerts.[1] The experimenters on the show tried a series of frequencies between 5 and 10 Hz at 120–160 dBSPL, but they were unsuccessful in producing the rumored effects. They all reported some physical anxiety and shortness of breath, even a small amount of nausea, but this was dismissed by the participants, noting that sound at that frequency and intensity moves air rapidly in and out of one's lungs.

Other researchers have noted flaws in the methodology of the experiment. Rather than test the entire spectrum below 20 Hz, the MythBusters tested only three specific frequencies: 5, 7, and 9 Hz. In addition, the strategy of surrounding the subject with speakers without accounting for phase effects could have resulted in a loss of effective power being transmitted.

Another show, Brainiac: Science Abuse, performed a similar experiment using 22.275 Hz at −30 dB (according to the show's producers used by Japan's Police and tested by the French Military). During the program, they broadcast the note over the air (and into the living rooms of viewers) in an attempt to cause bowel movements among those who had chosen to stay in the room despite repeated warnings and opportunities to leave. It should be noted, however, that no television speakers and very few subwoofers are able to accurately generate sound at this frequency at a significant volume. They also alleged to have confirmed the myth with a subject, but this subject was out of camera shot for all of the piece except at the very beginning. Using an audio editing software it can be seen that brown note doesn't exist anywhere in the soundtrack. Instead, they replaced it with a 91.8 Hz sine wave tone making it audible to the viewers, therefore not having any effect on one's bowels... .

Its better than using MG42's for crowd control.

Non leathal weapons that emit sound waves are becoming very popular on cruise ships and larger yachts. They can keep pirates at bay. The boats that have them keep quite about it, but there have been incidents in which they were used and seem to work.

Yar....I hate that.

:pirate:

Imagine if they had non-lethal weapons at Kent State...:(

I assume it would only cook your skin if you stood still during the entire "reheat cassarole" cycle.

Hey! Great idea!

and you claim they're stupid...:eek:

Yep, none of them are perfect, but they are all better than a machine gun. No non leathal is perfect yet, but they give you options.

Wet blanket alert!

If we read what the Sec'y said, we find out that his point was this: Don't bring a new device into non-lethal crowd control against non-Americans that you wouldn't use on Americans.

I would say that His point was perfectly made by the comments on this thread.

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On the other hand, it shows a sick willingness to test on our own people before using it against someone else... I thought using people in experiments without their permission was fairly unethical.

I did. (Sorry about that!)

Our government loves us and would never hurt us. Nah, Never.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Syphilis_Study

You read more into what he said than was there. He did not advocate using the devices on crowds. He said don't use anything overseas that you wouldn't use on Americans.

B

Isn't it equally sick, and unethical, to use it on someone else? Are non-Americans non-Human and underserving of respect?

Yes. No.

Non Americans can't sue, if it goes wrong all you have is a CNN news breif and three weeks later everyone forgets.

One would think that they have at least tested it enough on say rats, and maybe monkeys before turning it on people.

Try it on Washington.

Just a thought.

B

Now thats a good idea! We have all these useless people in Congress and the Senate, try it on them first. You never know it may fry a few brains which could only help.:D

OTOH, with all of the volitile gases flowing from that place, a microwave may be too dangerous.

B

hear, hear.

If you remember Yuri Geller, raise your spoons.

that's where the "WMD" are, all gas and hot air...

Funny, that guy looks like he's way into it. It'd be interesting to read a brief (and I mean brief) description of what he thought he was getting out of that.

http://ochremedia.com/blog/media/mindHat.gif

Careful, Hat!
 

You aim that thing at Congress and you might have a "Nucular" explosion, son, what with all the gas in that place:flamethro .