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Botnst 10-18-2006 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by riethoven (Post 1306593)
Don't know. Not an authority on the Geneva Conventions. I only know what is right. Torture is not right, and it is proven to not be effective. Even the military says we should not torture.

If torture doesn't work then whatever interrogation they have used on some of the senior Al Qaeda leadership must not thave been torture, right?

Whatever torture is, it is now illegal, according to this law.

B

riethoven 10-18-2006 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 1306615)
If torture doesn't work then whatever interrogation they have used on some of the senior Al Qaeda leadership must not thave been torture, right?

Whatever torture is, it is now illegal, according to this law.

B

Torture to me is any physical or mental coercion of information from a prisoner. I do not consider rewards for information as mental coercion.

pj67coll 10-18-2006 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by riethoven (Post 1306569)
It doesn't matter what the Nazis did or what the terrorists did. We don't torture. We are supposed to follow the Geneva Convention.

There is nothing in the Geneva convention that applies to terrorists, thus we are not beholden to it in any way regarding them.

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a small group of ill-equiped thugs. Yeah, they did 9-11 and a few other things,
So I assume from this that 9-11 was not real damage huh?

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but they have no resources to really do any damage on our shores.
You know this how? You been sitting in on there planning sessions have you? You got a handle on their financiers? You able to account for all the nukes lying around in the former USSR's disintegrating remains? In my opinon that is a particularly stupid statement. One which seems typical of the liberal mindset and a principle reason why I dont think the Democrats have any business anywhere near the presidency.

- Peter.

Hatterasguy 10-18-2006 05:55 PM

I do think we are way to easy on these guys. I mean OMG keeping them up for a few days listening to music! Thats almost as bad as final week at school!:eek::rolleyes:

I think we need to take a page out of the KGB/Gestapo torture book. Certainly there are people around the world probably ex KGB that could get some good info with there "skills".:D

Brutal, ha were like a freaken cheer leading squad compared to other contries. Why do you think we let other countries have a go at them first? Do you think Isreal would just keep them up and blare music? Well maybe after working them over with a base ball bat, and hanging them upside down...

NKowi 10-18-2006 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 1306572)
What do the Geneva Conventions say about treatment of ununiformed combatants who are not signatories of the Conventions?

From The Geneva Convention, Part 1, Article 2; "Although one of the Powers in conflict may not be a party to the present Convention, the Powers who are parties thereto shall remain bound by it in their mutual relations."

pj67coll 10-18-2006 06:23 PM

Alqaeda and their ilk are not "powers" in the statist sense and we have no mutual relations with them.

- Peter.

NKowi 10-18-2006 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll (Post 1306912)
Alqaeda and their ilk are not "powers" in the statist sense and we have no mutual relations with them.

- Peter.

Parse away, if it makes you feel better.

NKowi 10-18-2006 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 1306401)
It's okay with me if they are tied to a plank and a wet towel is thrown over their faces to simulate drowning.

The United States has defined water-boarding as a war-crime - even prosecuted and convicted a Japanese officer (Yukio Asano) for it. Fifteen years of hard labor was Asano-san's reward for doing what you think is ok.


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