With the stroke W's pen, our country silently (for the most part) became witness to what may well be the saddest and most shameful day in our country's history. This is worse than an outrage. Right, left or center we share in the blame and shame.

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I am sure your exact feelings are shared my many others; maybe enough to pack a HS gymnasium. The ban on Internet gambling is going to send us in the crapper for sure.

Oh internet poker? I guess if your into it its cool.

If you really want to play set up an account in another country and play with that account.

Its the 21st century people come on US law only extends so far!

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Ah Yes, but is the Arab World outraged???

humana humana humana...

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oh. i thought like someone died or we were bombed or something... pffft

The 'stroke' that allows the government to seize individuals on American soil and detain them indefinitely with no opportunity to challenge their detention in court?
And the law would permit an individual to be convicted on the basis of coerced testimony and even allow someone convicted under these rules to be put to death.

Oh yes.. I feel safer now.

Do you?

You're a little off. This happened several times during the Carter and Clinton presidencies!

Something has to be done about people not in uniform, acting as an army against civilians, using civilians as shields and other acts expressly forbidden under Geneva Conventions.

POW's were held during various previous wars without trial because they were combatants in uniform fighting for a country.

The aformentioned terrorists, an ununiformed army operating as a non-national entity need to be dealt with and swiftly. They want to kill us, you and me as well as other who populate this forum and the country regardless or political affiliation.

As to the previous poster's comment, I am not an idiot and I resent the implication.

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Boo--hoo. Yeah, this is far worse than unemployment, lack of affordable healthcare, domestic violence, crack, homelessness, oil wars, school shootings, child abuse and possible nude pictures of Hillary Clinton surfacing.

Sounds like a comment a Kennedy would have the liesure to make.

About damm time. Maybe someone in this country is finally starting to get a clue that were engaged in a war. Although I still think it'll take a nuke in Chicago to wake up the populace at large.

As to the morons who think terrorists rights are more important than my safety. I say only that I hope you will be a ground zero when it goes off.

- Peter.

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Did you forget? We are the good guys. It doesn't matter what the Nazis did or what the terrorists did. We don't torture. We are supposed to follow the Geneva Convention.

This is just another way to highlight the "War on Terror" that features the largest military might on the earth against a small group of ill-equiped thugs. Yeah, they did 9-11 and a few other things, but they have no resources to really do any damage on our shores. We continue to overreact at the hands of the current administration and the US taxpayers are paying for it. Just wait for the day when the fed says that Social Security is canceled because they used the money to pay for things that they had no business spending it on. . . like going to Iraq.

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What do the Geneva Conventions say about treatment of ununiformed combatants who are not signatories of the Conventions?

Don't know. Not an authority on the Geneva Conventions. I only know what is right. Torture is not right, and it is proven to not be effective. Even the military says we should not torture.

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From The Geneva Convention, Part 1, Article 2; "Although one of the Powers in conflict may not be a party to the present Convention, the Powers who are parties thereto shall remain bound by it in their mutual relations."

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There is nothing in the Geneva convention that applies to terrorists, thus we are not beholden to it in any way regarding them.

So I assume from this that 9-11 was not real damage huh?

You know this how? You been sitting in on there planning sessions have you? You got a handle on their financiers? You able to account for all the nukes lying around in the former USSR's disintegrating remains? In my opinon that is a particularly stupid statement. One which seems typical of the liberal mindset and a principle reason why I dont think the Democrats have any business anywhere near the presidency.

- Peter.

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2021 Chevrolet Spark
Formerly...
2000 GMC Sonoma
1981 240D 4spd stick. 347000 miles. Deceased Feb 14 2021
2002 Kia Rio. Worst crap on four wheels
1981 240D 4spd stick. 389000 miles.
1984 123 200
1979 116 280S
1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
1971 108 280S