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John Doe 12-08-2006 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by suginami (Post 1352413)

It's just a term that refuses to die in this country and I don't know why.

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Because it is an abbreviation!! Its easy to say and write--this is America--we are lazy(this is why I think it won't die out). I don't see the comparison to "Gook" and don't know its derivation, but it doesn't seem to be short for Vietnamese.


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Originally Posted by suginami (Post 1352413)
How often do you hear people refer to Japanese cars as Jap cars?
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I hear this all the time--however, it seems more often used in recent years is "rice burner" or "rice rocket" which strikes me as more offensive. However, I don't believe I have ever heard anyone refer to a Japanese restaurant as a "Jap" restaurant which is curious to me for some reason (as I stated earlier, I have no use for the term, because I have been asked not to use it.).

450slcguy 12-08-2006 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Plantman (Post 1352420)
I've never felt comfortable calling a jewish person a jew until recently.

Where I grew up, the word jew was always connected to some sort of insult, so I assumed that it would be insulting.

Any jewish people out there mind being called a jew?

Suzuki Goldstein here, I don't mind at all. But shouldn't that be "Jew" with a capital J? Now that offends me.:rolleyes:

MTI 12-08-2006 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by John Doe (Post 1352466)
Would this be the time to lighten the moment by suggesting that the fellow might respond with a Karate chop?:D

Karate, Daniel-san, is an Okinawan martial art . . . perhaps judo/jujitsu, would be more appropriate. ;)

At the start of the old movie "Teahouse of the August Moon" Marlon Brando delivers, as the character "Sakini" the brief history of Okinawa.

Hatterasguy 12-08-2006 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Plantman (Post 1352416)
I'd be pretty interesting to have us all sit around a large table, cocktails in hand and shoot the ***** in person one of these days.

The turns that these topics take mimic actual physical conversations to me it's amusing.

Keep up the bad work! lol

Yeah that would be a fun discussion thats for sure!:D

The only person I know who uses the term Jew all the time, is one of my friends who is Jewish.

Like anything I guess certain people are offended by things and others are not.

John Doe 12-08-2006 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI (Post 1352534)
Karate, Daniel-san, is an Okinawan martial art . . . perhaps judo/jujitsu, would be more appropriate. ;)
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Whatever, they are all the same to me:eek: ;) :D

One of my favorite Brando soliloquies, if you can get past the makup.

el presidente 12-08-2006 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MTI (Post 1352534)
At the start of the old movie "Teahouse of the August Moon" Marlon Brando delivers, as the character "Sakini" the brief history of Okinawa.

No lie.....this movie is what my Dad asked for for Christmas! lol :P

suginami 12-08-2006 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by el presidente (Post 1352621)
No lie.....this movie is what my Dad asked for for Christmas! lol :P

Man, that's funny. I've actually seen the movie, and Marlon Brando actually has Japanese lines in the movie, and his pronunciation is terrible.

I actually didn't recognize that he was speaking Japanese until someone pointed it out to me. I had to rewind and replay again and again and again to figure out what the hell was saying.

pj67coll 12-08-2006 04:58 PM

Curious as to the official Jappanese view of Nip. Someone mentioned that earlier but I dont recall seing a response. As I understand it Nippon is the actual Jappanese name for Japan. Is nip regarded as racest as well? By the Japanese that is? Or by Jappanese Americans only? Or by neither?

- Peter.

MTI 12-08-2006 05:00 PM

"you said it, boss"

http://members.cox.net/onigiriman/br...eahouse-02.jpg

suginami 12-08-2006 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pj67coll (Post 1352636)
Curious as to the official Jappanese view of Nip. Someone mentioned that earlier but I dont recall seing a response. As I understand it Nippon is the actual Jappanese name for Japan. Is nip regarded as racest as well? By the Japanese that is? Or by Jappanese Americans only? Or by neither?

- Peter.

I think "nip" is considered a racist term by everyone.

Once again, a good test is to call a person of Japanese ancestry "nip" and see how they respond.

Regarding "Nippon", it is one of two ways to pronounce that characters that make up the word for Japan.

Those in the north, like Tokyo, prefer Nihon.

Those in the South, like Osaka, Kobe, and Kyoto prefer Nippon.

Both are correct.

suginami 12-08-2006 05:02 PM

I just got to thinking.

I wonder what the origin of the word "Nip" is.

I don't think it's related to or is a shortened version of the word Nippon, but I'm not sure.

suginami 12-08-2006 05:06 PM

Just checked Wikipedia.

You're right. It is derived from Nippon, and is considered derogatory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nip

MTI 12-08-2006 05:13 PM

All in one place.

450slcguy 12-08-2006 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by suginami (Post 1352642)
I just got to thinking.

I wonder what the origin of the word "Nip" is.

I don't think it's related to or is a shortened version of the word Nippon, but I'm not sure.


Why would you think it isn't? Nippon=Nip Japan=Jap Get it? Sounds like a prime example of common sense to me.

John Doe 12-08-2006 05:14 PM

That explanation from Wikipedia is silly--why would it be a shortened version of the word "Japan" when it is used to refer to the "Japanese" people? That isn't very economical either from a headline standpoint to only shave off two letters. I don't think it has been used much on this forum, because its use is quickly pounced upon the four or so times it has happened, but I honestly hear it quite a bit in real life.


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