Tire store thought it was okay to jack car up by floor board

[Ara T.]

Originally Posted by peragro

10 low profile removers, fits sizes from 3/8 to 3/4 in. and 10 to 19mm. Used for removing damaged, stripped, rusted or painted fasteners (screws/nuts/bolts) of all types.

• Designed for use in areas where space is limited as well as standard use
• Can be used with a combination wrench, adjustable wrench, pliers, vise grips, or socket
• Special 6-flute spiral design draws itself onto the fastener allowing it to loosen
• #1 Bolt-Out fits 3/8 in. size fastener; #2 Bolt-Out fits 10mm size fastener
• #3 Bolt-Out fits 11mm and 7/16 in. size fastener; #4 Bolt-Out fits 12mm size fastener
• #5 Bolt-Out fits 13mm and 1/2 in. size fastener; #6 Bolt-Out fits 14mm size fastener
• #7 Bolt-Out fits 15mm size fastener; #8 Bolt-Out fits 16mm and 5/8 in. size fastener
• #9 Bolt-Out fits 17mm size fastener; #10 Bolt-Out fits 19mm and 3/4 in. size fastener

popped the rounded drain plug out of the SDL lickity-split. I suck the oil out with a mityvac now. An easy 2 beer non-dirty, civilised way to do things.

Those things are amazing. Great stocking stuffer for the DIYer too!

[pawoSD]

I could sure use a set of those, that'd be nice! I asked for other tools for christmas though. If I get some cash maybe I will pick up a set.

[peragro]

They are well worth the cost and they're much cheaper now than they were 4 or 5 years ago.

Also, the snobs way to change oil. Great stocking stuffer for those of you with size 73 feet.



made by Mityvac - easily googled.

[pawoSD]

I don't think I'd want a top sider unless it made it a lot easier (if the car had covers underneath etc...) but on the W123 and W126 its just way too easy to quick go under and loosen the drain plug.

Here's my idea to improve the drain plug:

Replace the drain plug bolt setup with a setup like a brake caliper bleeder screw. So you can attach a hose to the bolt (screw) and drain it right back into an empty jug with no mess, then just re-snug the bolt....and you're done. No total removal of the bolt. No more washers to deal with....etc. I think that'd be cool.

[peragro]

Originally Posted by pawoSD

I don't think I'd want a top sider unless it made it a lot easier (if the car had covers underneath etc...) but on the W123 and W126 its just way too easy to quick go under and loosen the drain plug.

Here's my idea to improve the drain plug:

Replace the drain plug bolt setup with a setup like a brake caliper bleeder screw. So you can attach a hose to the bolt (screw) and drain it right back into an empty jug with no mess, then just re-snug the bolt....and you're done. No total removal of the bolt. No more washers to deal with....etc. I think that'd be cool.

http://www.quickoildrainvalve.com/

You still have to crawl or reach under, depending on how long your arms are. It doesn't have that "lean up against the car and watch the oil flow into the mityvac whilst sipping an imported beer" snob appeal; but it sounds like what you want.

[pawoSD]

Wow cool, that is exactly what I was thinking of, even better! I may buy one....I'd love to be able to drain it right into a couple gallon jugs with a piece of tubing, that'd be sooo much easier and far less messy/annoying!

[pawoSD]

Yikes....they are $25....hmmmm.....I'll have to think about that one. Definatley a "when I have nothing else to fix" purchase....

[LaRondo]

Originally Posted by pawoSD

I don't think I'd want a top sider unless it made it a lot easier (if the car had covers underneath etc...) but on the W123 and W126 its just way too easy to quick go under and loosen the drain plug.

Here's my idea to improve the drain plug:

Replace the drain plug bolt setup with a setup like a brake caliper bleeder screw. So you can attach a hose to the bolt (screw) and drain it right back into an empty jug with no mess, then just re-snug the bolt....and you're done. No total removal of the bolt. No more washers to deal with....etc. I think that'd be cool.

That would warrant for an unwanted extension of the oil plug toward the asphalt ... could be critical.
If you ever hit the asphalt with your oil pan, leaving the plug rolled open like a tuna can, while flying 65 mph, you'll know what I mean ...

[LaRondo]

Originally Posted by peragro

They are well worth the cost and they're much cheaper now than they were 4 or 5 years ago.

Also, the snobs way to change oil. Great stocking stuffer for those of you with size 73 feet.



made by Mityvac - easily googled.

So, that thing reaches down the dipstick tube ...right? I mean the tubes of it, ofcourse.

I'll promise not to stuff my G/F stockings with it...

[waybomb]

Originally Posted by pawoSD

I don't think I'd want a top sider unless it made it a lot easier (if the car had covers underneath etc...) but on the W123 and W126 its just way too easy to quick go under and loosen the drain plug.

Here's my idea to improve the drain plug:

Replace the drain plug bolt setup with a setup like a brake caliper bleeder screw. So you can attach a hose to the bolt (screw) and drain it right back into an empty jug with no mess, then just re-snug the bolt....and you're done. No total removal of the bolt. No more washers to deal with....etc. I think that'd be cool.

That's what's done on boat engines where you can not get to the drain plug. On mine, I have them all plumbed in with Aeroqup hoses, all terminating at one point, up high in the engine bay, I can easily hook my pump. All I do is unscrew the cap of the drain hose, plug in my pump, and proceed to pump out about 5 gallons from each engine. I then take the pump, reverse the conections, and pump new stuff back in.

On many regular boats, oil changing systems are installed. But the whole thing is too heavy for me because of all the valves and the weight of the pump, so I rigged my own bare-bones system.

There'snNothing from stopping you do the same on your car. Topsider works, but takes so damn long. 1/2" hose and fitting, and warm oil, makes the process go fast.

[aklim]

Unless it is with a trusted mechanic, I will NOT let the car out of my sight.

[cmac2012]

I think I heard on Car Talk that many of the lube places don't even take the oil pan drain plug out any more -- too much chance of liability. Instead they have a device that sucks it out through the dipstick tube.

That there's some pow'rful suck.

Less chance of accumulated debris draining out though.

[Matt L]

Originally Posted by cmac2012

I think I heard on Car Talk that many of the lube places don't even take the oil pan drain plug out any more -- too much chance of liability. Instead they have a device that sucks it out through the dipstick tube.

That there's some pow'rful suck.

Less chance of accumulated debris draining out though.

Only if the debris is rather large. If so, you have bigger problems.

[cmac2012]

Good point. At least with draining it, you get some heads up on the bigger problems coming your way.

[Matt L]

Yes, that is true. In fact, draining from the pan caught a problem in a friend's 460 before it became catastrophic. We found unidentified metal there, and didn't know where it came from until we tore the engine down. It turned out to be a piece of a valve tip.