They aren't defined as a laxative because they aren't. Fiber is NOT a laxative.
In my opinion your bowel movements were normal for someone going through dieting and changing food intake. If you take lots of protein and very little else you will get constipated. Take fiber and you won't notice any difference when dieting.

That said a friend of mine gave me some and they work OK. They don't completely stop the hunger but it calms the craving down a lot. I've used it on and off for the past few months and didn't notice any of the conditions LaRondo mentioned.

I do not think I would go out and buy the stuff. It is expensive. You can get protein powder anywhere. I wonder if places like Chamberlains or Whole Foods has similar products. I would bet they do and a lot cheaper.

Danny

http://www.forbes.com/home/free_forbes/2004/1004/116.html

Heber sits on Herbalife's newly created scientific advisory board, a perch he accepted around the time the multilevel marketer made a $3 million donation to the Center for Human Nutrition at UCLA, where he is the director. Herbalife's money was well spent. The name of Heber's weight-loss plan and his book promote the company's signature product.

Michael Johnson, the new chief executive of Los Angeles-headquartered Herbalife, hopes associations like this will finally lend the firm some legitimacy. Johnson, who joined Herbalife last year, is the company's third boss since its founder, Mark Hughes, died of an overdose of antidepressant medication and alcohol in 2000. As the former president of Walt Disney International, Johnson, 49, knows a thing or two about the power of image--and of pixie dust. "Herbalife is ready for a second wind," he says.

Fiber is not laxitive. That's correct.

HerbaLife tablets and capsules don't consist exclusively of fiber. They contain additional ingredients, of which I am sure they act as a stimulant within the digestive system. Meaning an increased frequency of colon contractions, similar to coffee. Coffee is not a declared laxitive either, yet everybody knows what coffee does ... ehem, in the morning :eek:

I remember there were also tablets in higher concentration containing Guarana among other ingredients, which is a high potency caffeine substance. Actually way better than coffee.

I am sure HerbaLife has changed their Formulas during the last 15 years.

And yes, you can accomplish even better results for less by browsing health food stores etc.

Niteworks is made from L-arginine, an amino acid that helps produce nitric oxide. Like all of Herbalife's concoctions, Niteworks hasn't received a nod from the Food & Drug Administration--but it doesn't need one. Although medicines can be sold only after their safety and efficacy have been proved, dietary supplements, such as Niteworks, get a laissez-faire pass. Herbalife is careful to make no medical claims for Niteworks--but it can't control what its 1 million distributors say about it.

I think that about says it all. I don't make any medical claims since I have NO safety and efficacy tests to prove what I say. But hey, I don't know about the guy selling it to you.

Sorry, if you want to call it a "medicine", make it go thru the same hoops. I can't make something up that looks like a bicycle and call it a car.

Sure, change it. How? Add a little something else and call it a different product? Will it work better? How do we know this? Their good word? The word of somebody who doesn't want to make it pass any proper tests?

With what tho? More of the same untested and/or unproven products?

Just try it. You can always volunteer as a guinea pig at your own expense ...

There is a place called Covance and they do medical research for drugs awaiting FDA approval. also there are numerous companies doing such studies. My point is I can get paid to be a guinea pig. Why would I do it for free or at my expense?

I have some of those, those things are expensive. When I take those, I feel energetic all day...

Trader Joe's used to sell Guarana extract tablets at $2.99 for a 60 count or so. They don't carry it anymore.

Guarana is good stuff, one needs to keep in mind, it accumulates when taken every day, faster than it breaks down and is expelled.

I used those on a road trip from CA to FL.
When I arrived in Miami I stopped taking them, still I couldn't sleep for almost 48 hours.
After that I collapsed ...

X3


For bad joints try Vodka, its worked for thousands of years and is all natural!:D

I'm not a fan of vodka straight. How if you are talking of it in a Long Island Iced Tea, bring it over.

A scam? ^^ There's your answer. :eek:

What ever happened to just using plain common sense when it comes to dietary issues.

I would think that over the past 20 years or more that there has been enough information on dietary facts related to the human body, that we should be able to simply let common sense if not basic public knowledge rule in eating right and maintain good dietary (as well as overall) health without the need for a daily hand full of some supplement or another.

i.e.:
You need certain levels of such things as fiber, vitamins, proteins etc.
(Most folks are smart enough to figure out how and where to get these from common grocery store items.)
You can not live a healthy life eating at McDs five nights a week.
(If anyone has not figured this out by now...:rolleyes:)
Eating foods that are proven to not be “healthy”, and then thinking that a daily handful of some supplement or a glass of some concoction is going to keep them healthy...:rolleyes:
(Get real. I hate hearing idiots state that their bodies can handle all the hydrogenated crap they dump into it, so long as they take regiment of supplemented fiber, vitamins, etc.)

You want to loose weight:
Eat right and exercise.
(Ever notice that DAMN NEAR EVERY dietary supplement and/or loose weight supplement on the market states in the fine print something down the lines of: “When combined with proper diet and exercise.” ?? Get a clue.)

You want to feel good:
Eat right and exercise.

And NO. A hand full of any product like this is not any part of "eat right."

Yeah, I always wonder why people aren't all rich too.:rolleyes:

Apples/Oranges :rolleyes:

Maybe because not all people feel the need to be "rich". Not to mention, doing so takes a whole different mind set.

Everyone feels the need to eat.
And when they do so poorly, they run out thinking they can order some supplement to make them feel all better.