Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Discussions > Off-Topic Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-10-2008, 06:47 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Just north of Indianapolis, Indiana
Posts: 216
early 70's Honda "micro" compact

* Back in the early 70's Honda made a very small car powered by a 750CC (?) motorcycle drivetrain. It didn't catch on and was discontinued after a couple of model years. Does anyone know the model name or nomenclature? I wouldn't be surprised if there are still some around.

__________________
ASE Master Tech
Quality Enterprises
Mercedes Svc. & Restoration
Sheridan, IN
317.769.3536
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-10-2008, 07:02 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,361
they were called a 600 .i knew two guys that had them.and i think one of em still has his.i'll have to check it out.i know they had like 10 inch tires and they are hell to find.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-10-2008, 07:28 PM
engatwork's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Soperton, Ga. USA
Posts: 14,454
Here you go.

Click on the attached link and look at the engine bay. It would be neat to drop a Hyabusa engine in there. I would hate to have a wreck in one though
.
__________________
Jim

Last edited by engatwork; 01-10-2008 at 07:53 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-10-2008, 07:57 PM
Da Nag's Avatar
INAPPROPRIATE
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Edge
Posts: 124
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Squires View Post
* Back in the early 70's Honda made a very small car powered by a 750CC (?) motorcycle drivetrain. It didn't catch on and was discontinued after a couple of model years. Does anyone know the model name or nomenclature? I wouldn't be surprised if there are still some around.
I had one, back in the early 80's. A Honda N600 - mine was a "sedan", with a dinky rear seat. The coupe was tinier still.

Engine was air-cooled, and 650CC. I always heard it was a motorcycle engine, and based strictly on looks that makes sense.

The thing was actually pretty fun. Faster than a VW bug, but certainly no powerhouse. They had a nasty habit of chewing up some rubber component in the upper end - a timing chain tensioner, if memory serves. That's what finally did mine in.

I used to love to mess with this Corvette driving pr!ck at the junior college I was attending at the time. The parking lot close to class always filled up early, and the dork would park sideways, taking up two spaces. But the N600 could fit anywhere...I took great delight, in parking 2" off his driver's side door, in the "half spot" he left.

The tables were turned when cruising to Berkeley to score some....uh, stuff. I learned quickly to take a companion along...more often than not, I'd return to the car to have it sitting sideways in a parking spot, with no chance of moving the thing under it's own power. Two young guys could lift the rear of the car up, to get it pointing in the right direction again.

Ahh...memories.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-10-2008, 08:16 PM
Larry Delor's Avatar
What, Me Worry?
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Sarasota, Fl.
Posts: 3,115
I had forgotten all about those things! Nice flashback.

Here is one on ebay (handyman special) http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/11-1971-HONDA-600-COUPE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28193QQihZ022QQitemZ350012276717QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW#la-image-1

(there are a few interesting cars offered by that outfit...that Saab is unusual)
__________________
It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so. Robert A. Heinlein


09 Jetta TDI
1985 300D

Last edited by Larry Delor; 01-10-2008 at 08:23 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-10-2008, 08:20 PM
Pete Geither's Avatar
Half Fast Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Western Pa.
Posts: 2,417
Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry Delor View Post
A quick fixerupper.
__________________
95 SL500 Smoke Silver, Parchment 64K
07 E350 4matic Station Wagon White 34K
02 E320 4Matic Silver/grey 80K
05 F150 Silver 44K
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-10-2008, 08:31 PM
R Leo's Avatar
Stella!
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: En te l'eau Rant
Posts: 5,393
I had a 71 model 600 that I managed to keep running for about 6 years. Sold it in 1980 or so. Pretty neat little cars...front disk brakes, rack & pinion steering, mcpherson strut front suspension...
__________________
Never a dull moment at Berry Hill Farm.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-10-2008, 09:34 PM
300EVIL's Avatar
Moderator Incarnate
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Lake Geneva, WI.
Posts: 1,676
Quote:
Originally Posted by engatwork View Post
It would be neat to drop a Hyabusa engine in there. I would hate to have a wreck in one though
.
Hell yeah! Here's one on a slightly smaller chassis. Talk about power to weight ratio!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xv76qiJFJg
__________________
Current Stable:
01 ML55 AMG
92 500E (a few mods)
87 300E (lots of mods)
00 Chevy 3500HD Diesel Box Truck
68 18' Donzi Marine
06 GT i-Drive7 1.0 Mountain Bike (with GPS!)

PREVIOUSLY OWNED:83 300SD, 87 420SEL, 88 420SEL, 90 420SEL, 86 560SEL, 86 190E 2.3-16V AMG, 94 E320

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-10-2008, 10:05 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Just north of Indianapolis, Indiana
Posts: 216
* N600. That sounds familiar. I think the orange/butterscotch color, in the side-view photo, was the most common (popular) color.
* I don't think we're that far away from $5 fuel in the US. Gasoline was more than $6 a gallon in Europe years ago. And with China and India ramping up their industry and consumer demand, it's hard to see where fuel price will level off now. A little "toy" car that gets 50-70mpg is beginning to sound reasonable, particularly if it's a temporary remedy until new fuel and manufacturing technologies get settled. If someone could do a carbon fiber, E-Class size, electric car with a new-technology battery for under $20K, he would probably take over the number one spot from Microsoft (or is it Exxon).
* That handyman special on eBay looks like it needs a magician, not a handyman. By the time you'd fixed that up, you could have bought a new Smart Car from Mercedes. You know how those rehabs go. Once you get started, you can't just leave it alone and drive it with problems. I hear Mercedes is going to base-price the Smart Car around $12K, when they're introduced this year (or next?).
__________________
ASE Master Tech
Quality Enterprises
Mercedes Svc. & Restoration
Sheridan, IN
317.769.3536
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-10-2008, 10:29 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Just north of Indianapolis, Indiana
Posts: 216
* R Leo, under your avatar, which looks like a photo of a bulldozer, you write "erhaltene Planierraupe?". I'm trying to figure out what that means. A "Planierraupe" is a bulldozer but "erhaltene" means received or awarded. And that doesn't make much sense. Was this dozer a gift? Help me with my German.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-10-2008, 10:58 PM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 38,948
I think the original 600 sports car is pretty quick for its size....and now becoming pretty collectible. I thought that although the engines were motorcycle related the ones in the cars were not actually the same as the motorcycle engines.

IIRC the little sports car sported roller bearings and would rev to about 9 or 10K rpm.

Tom W
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-11-2008, 03:49 AM
Ara T.'s Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 2,075
Has a long hood compared to its rear.. does that make it a pony car?
__________________
1985 CA 300D Turbo , 213K mi
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-11-2008, 08:02 AM
R Leo's Avatar
Stella!
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: En te l'eau Rant
Posts: 5,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by t walgamuth View Post
I think the original 600 sports car is pretty quick for its size....and now becoming pretty collectible. I thought that although the engines were motorcycle related the ones in the cars were not actually the same as the motorcycle engines.

IIRC the little sports car sported roller bearings and would rev to about 9 or 10K rpm.

Tom W
When I had my 600, there were a lot already consigned to the junkyards...that would have been 1975-1976 timeframe.

600 memories...
  • The coupes had a cable driven tach so I bought the parts out of a junkyard car (gauge, cable, cam and fittings on the head) to retrofit my sedan with them so I'd have a tach. Seems that it redlined at about 12k.
  • You could do 'bat turns' by whipping the wheel one way and grabbing a handfull of e-brake. I misjudged one night, tagged the curb and and bent the living ***** out of the rear axle where the spindle was welded to the axle. When I got home that night, I parked that car so my folks wouldn't see the wheel canted inwards and the next morning, hightailed it to the junkyard to yank a new rear axle. IIRC, it took about 15 minutes to pull it and another 30 to swap the bent one for the replacement. The parental units never were the wiser.
  • I could drop the engine (it came out the bottom) in about 30-40 minutes. I think it's easier than pulling a VW engine.
  • Mine started throwing oil out from between the cylinders one day. Because of excessive play (elongation), the cam chain slap had machined a slot all the way through the chain vault wall, between the cylinders in the block. I dropped the engine and, pulled the head and took the cylinders to my heli-arc pal, Jim Van Krenniken. He closed the hole and I put in a new chain and tensioner, reassembled it, changed the oil and drove it for another year or so before selling it.

I wish I still had mine...and, know where there's a sedan in a junkyard on the way to the farm. Hmmm...
__________________
Never a dull moment at Berry Hill Farm.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-11-2008, 08:07 AM
R Leo's Avatar
Stella!
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: En te l'eau Rant
Posts: 5,393
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Squires View Post
* R Leo, under your avatar, which looks like a photo of a bulldozer, you write "erhaltene Planierraupe?". I'm trying to figure out what that means. A "Planierraupe" is a bulldozer but "erhaltene" means received or awarded. And that doesn't make much sense. Was this dozer a gift? Help me with my German.
erhaltene Planierraupe?=Got Dozer?
__________________
Never a dull moment at Berry Hill Farm.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-11-2008, 08:32 AM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 38,948
Quote:
Originally Posted by R Leo View Post
When I had my 600, there were a lot already consigned to the junkyards...that would have been 1975-1976 timeframe.

600 memories...
  • The coupes had a cable driven tach so I bought the parts out of a junkyard car (gauge, cable, cam and fittings on the head) to retrofit my sedan with them so I'd have a tach. Seems that it redlined at about 12k.
  • You could do 'bat turns' by whipping the wheel one way and grabbing a handfull of e-brake. I misjudged one night, tagged the curb and and bent the living ***** out of the rear axle where the spindle was welded to the axle. When I got home that night, I parked that car so my folks wouldn't see the wheel canted inwards and the next morning, hightailed it to the junkyard to yank a new rear axle. IIRC, it took about 15 minutes to pull it and another 30 to swap the bent one for the replacement. The parental units never were the wiser.
  • I could drop the engine (it came out the bottom) in about 30-40 minutes. I think it's easier than pulling a VW engine.
  • Mine started throwing oil out from between the cylinders one day. Because of excessive play (elongation), the cam chain slap had machined a slot all the way through the chain vault wall, between the cylinders in the block. I dropped the engine and, pulled the head and took the cylinders to my heli-arc pal, Jim Van Krenniken. He closed the hole and I put in a new chain and tensioner, reassembled it, changed the oil and drove it for another year or so before selling it.

I wish I still had mine...and, know where there's a sedan in a junkyard on the way to the farm. Hmmm...

Fun memories! I have never sat in one let alone driven or ridden in one.

Tom W

__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page