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John Doe 01-18-2008 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1736256)
WalMart doesn't have the lock on that story. K-Mart, Target, and all the discount retailers are in the same boat. Wal-Mart is just the spokesperson............

I don't shop at any of them either....

Brian Carlton 01-18-2008 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by John Doe (Post 1736268)
I don't shop at any of them either....

Can't say I blame you...........but, shopping, in general, is not very satisfying.

If I can find it on the internet and the shipping is not egregious.........that's satisfying.

John Doe 01-18-2008 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1736270)
If I can find it on the internet and the shipping is not egregious.........that's satisfying.

You pay shipping and I pay $10/hour plus $.48/mile. Probably works out close to the same since I get to write off the expense;)

Hatterasguy 01-18-2008 02:18 PM

Amazon.com is my new best friend.

Hatterasguy 01-18-2008 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by John Doe (Post 1736275)
You pay shipping and I pay $10/hour plus $.48/mile. Probably works out close to the same since I get to write off the expense;)

Must be nice.:D

aklim 01-18-2008 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1736270)
Can't say I blame you...........but, shopping, in general, is not very satisfying.

If I can find it on the internet and the shipping is not egregious.........that's satisfying.

But unless you buy it with instant shipping (not sure how to do that), you'd still have to wait.

blueeagle289 04-11-2008 06:19 AM

Walmart is a great company and the stores are very good
 
I shop at Wal-Mart at least twice a week ...... buy 90 percent of everything there and much of it is Chinese, of very good quality. The world has changed and today you have to buy the best available product at the lowest price. That is what Wal-Mart offers in almost every area. Those who have gripes about US companies going out of business should realize that the ones that do were probably not the best in the world even before other Asian or European goods started to hit our markets. Griping about Walmart and going out of your way to shop on Ebay and drive 10 extra miles to go to "Auto Supply XX" isn't really to effective.

We all drive German cars because they are great vehicles ..... why aren't you all buying Fords and Chevys??

Ben Carter

raymr 04-11-2008 07:50 AM

Yup. America has changed. I see a lot of small towns where main street is boarded up and once-thriving businesses are now pawn or consignment shops. Invariably there is a WalMart or such 2 miles away with a full parking lot.

Just remember, the same system that gives you cheap disposable goods also supresses freedom in Tibet. Or do we really care?

dannym 04-11-2008 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by blueeagle289 (Post 1821141)
I shop at Wal-Mart at least twice a week ...... buy 90 percent of everything there and much of it is Chinese, of very good quality.............
Ben Carter

Walmart does not have good quality. How do you think they can go so low in pricing? It's well know manufacturers make lower quality products just for Walmart. Levi is a perfect example. The Levi jeans you get at Walmart are not the same jeans you get at a Levi's store.
You get what you pay for, Walmart is no exception.

Danny

mgburg 04-11-2008 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 1736022)
But how would they achieve it though?

Simple: The store employees (that are R'tards) don't do their jobs properly...either pricing the stuff w/the correct price when they stock the shelves w/the item, change the tag that should be reflecting the current price for the item or someone not double-checking the computer entry to determine that it was entered correctly and "stuck" as is was intended.

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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 1736022)
You scan the item and the computer adds it up. You would have to program it into the computer to do that.

BINGO! The computer couldn't/can't make the mistake...it's the R'tards!

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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 1736022)
That would mean that they would have to be in collusion with the supplier of the scanning equipment.

Nope...just lazy... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by aklim (Post 1736022)
I think we are getting to the Conspiracy Zone here.

No conspiracy...just laziness.

Where you run into even more of it is when you buy a consumable (on a regular basis), and even when you find the error (it's in your favor, so you go through the "correcting the price" (CTP) time-wasting-torture test) and you think it's been corrected. Only NEXT time you buy the same item, it's still the SAME incorrect price, go through the same CTP procedure and it happens again and again...(yep, four times, same chit...) - THEN I personally call the store manager (his/her name is on every receipt, at the top) and watch him enter the price in the computer and test it out.

After the 3rd time, I'm starting to think that THERE, I might be looking at a conspiracy...but I'm chalking it up to just plain, dumb-ass laziness.

Remember...these folks (SOME of the employees) aren't getting top dollar for what they're putting out...some have health-issues that MAL*FART isn't paying for to correct and some have issues co-operating w/society...i.e.: getting up in the morning, showing up for work on time, having a decent work record in attendance, let alone their personal hygiene is debatable...- :eek:

Go through your local store and look at their eyes...some are just blank...nothing but "living from paycheck to paycheck" energy...they could care less if you were their manager, district manager or on the board of MAL*FART itself...they want their check and they're out of there.

And if they went to another job, I seriously doubt they'd exhibit any other attitude. Initially, maybe, but within a month...drag-city.

Each store has a different personality...and since it's the only place that's open 24/7/364 (I believe they shut down on X-mas), I've seen my share of stores...they are all different in their own way...some are top-notch all the time...others have problems keeping the "greeter" in a cheery manner.

But conspiracy?

Only in that they do wipe out the small "Ma & Pa's" when they first move into a community...but I've seen family businesses sell out to the first Ya-Hoo that'll plunk down a dollar and they run like hell, off to retirement...only because those owners know how business really works...and they just don't have it in them to try to compete with the Chines...err...ahh...MART*FARTS of the world.

That's my take on this...

:tt2:

MS Fowler 04-11-2008 08:30 AM

Competition is the very heart of capitalism.
If you do not like Wal Mart--then do not shop there.
Wal Mart is successful because they provide goods and services at what is perceived to be good prices for the value rec'd.
If you can provide higher quality at lower prices, then by all means, go into business and drive Wal Mart out of business in a fair and competitive manner.
However, to complain about how bad Wal Mart is just sounds elitist whinning.
By the same whinning, we should be still subsidizing the buggy whip manufacturers...

mgburg 04-11-2008 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dannym (Post 1821169)
Walmart does not have good quality. How do you think they can go so low in pricing? It's well know manufacturers make lower quality products just for Walmart. Levi is a perfect example. The Levi jeans you get at Walmart are not the same jeans you get at a Levi's store.
You get what you pay for, Walmart is no exception.

Danny

That's their way of keeping the prices low.

When was the last time you saw a TREK bike on their racks? Or a REAL Schwinn? (Not the crap that's being sold as Schwinn, now.) OR even a Huffy?

Look for Rubber-maid...that stuff is rare...only see it at other "high-end" retail outlets now...they couldn't stay open/viable for what MAL*FART was requiring Rubber-maid to price their stuff to sell to them.

"Do this or we won't buy your stuff to put on our shelves."


So the brand name you use to trust for quality has three options...

#1.) Tell MAL*FART you'll sell your product at whatever price you want - MAL*FART drops your product line from the shelves.

#2.) Drop the price to where MAL*FART wants it priced. Quality has to go somewhere so the company can still meet margins...

#3.) Drop MAL*FART and try to retail your product at a different style of store...until such time that that store itself ends up going out of business because even they can't compete against MAL*FART themselves...


Welcome to "Retail Business World-101"...throats beware! Turtle-necks optional.

.

raymr 04-11-2008 09:03 AM

WalMart is a model of streamlining and capitalist efficiency. No doubt about that. It's very successful and good at what it does.

BUT.

Capitalism by nature implies exploitation - be it natural resources, people, or other businesses. WalMart exploits cheap Chinese labor obviously, and forces businesses to comply with its rigid standards. However there is another exploitation that is less obvious and unprecedented, and that is the widespread weakening of the social and economic infrastructure of Anytown USA. Where money used to change hands amongst locals and spread around for the good of the community, it now funnels directly into WalMart centers and the profits are enjoyed in Bentonville, Arkansas. Potential business owners (aka taxpayers) don't even bother setting up shop because the merchandising giant out on the bypass will always undercut them by a couple pennies. Diverse job opportunities dry up.

Then theres plain old esthetics. Big boxes surrounded by broiling swaths of asphalt - show me one Walmart that isn't a blight on the landscape?

Mistel 04-11-2008 11:02 AM

The outsourcing of jobs is a trend that has been going on for a while and it's full effects will take a while to be seen. Initially, there were lower prices that made it look beneficial, but over the long run I believe the loss of jobs and more importantly the US trade deficit, will become a HUGE problem. (I think it already is a big problem)

I have a computer program that I use to trade commodities and currencies. I have been trying to get better results from the program so I back tested the system against every major commodity and currency back to 2001. That was as far back as I could go due to Microsoft and the way they don't make things forward compatible. I was looking at whether the program worked better trading long or short or both. What I found is that with many of the grains and currencies, the program worked much better going long as there have been long uptrends over the last decade. For some commodities, the system worked well both long and short, such as copper or soybeans.

There was only one market that I could find that traded best going short only, which indicates long down trends. I'll give you one guess what it was.

The US Dollar.

Have a nice day

aklim 04-11-2008 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by raymr (Post 1821161)
Just remember, the same system that gives you cheap disposable goods also supresses freedom in Tibet. Or do we really care?

And they flatten their dissidents arguments by flattening the dissidents. Do I give a rip what they do there? Let me dig a little deeper. Nope, still nothing.


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