Maybe they'd also pay better attention to the subject being taught.

I would much rather you be armed than your students.

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Screw that, I'll leave it in my car regardless, and take my chances.

I don't like the idea of being defenseless on the way to and from school or work because of someone's feel good anti gun parking lot policy.

That's another issue that ticks me off as a ccw holder.

Parking lot policy that forces you to have your rights suspended on your daily commute, no, no ,no wrong in many ways.

All I got to say is thank God for the NRA or we would be so screwed right now.

By the way, It is legal for ccw holders in Georgia to carry their weapon in their car even in gun free safe zones as long as it stays in your vehicle.
I don't see why it could not stay on my person as well if I had no bad intent, because the bad guy may already be waiting in the school with his gun regardless.

Seems like all the gun control laws do is punish and restrict the good guys, and the bad guys are not scared one bit because the punishment is not harsh enough for them to bat an eye.

First off...thank you for your service to this country. I appreciate and respect all veterans...combat or not.

Here in TX, public schools, including college campuses, can not make up their own rules regarding guns. TX has a preemption clause in the constitution which only allows the state government to regulate the carry and sale of guns. Currently the state government does not allow CHLs to carry on the premises of a school. Premises for these purposes are defined specifically to exclude parking lots, sidewalks, and roads on the campus. A public school, can not post 30.06 signs in the parking lot and etc. If they do it is un enforceable. Private schools can legally post 30.06 signs if they choose and it is enforceable.

To answer you question. If you are a CHL holder, absolutely with out a doubt, I would want you armed.

I think if the media just refused to cover these things it would help a bit. This was a copy cat crime.

No media coverage=no "fame"=off themselves in the basement.

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I will completely agree with you Brian! What you will also find is the dudes with the large chips on their shoulders usually have a prior arrest record that will negate their ability to obtain a CCW.

That said, if you want states with excess testosterone Texas and Florida has New York beat, any time, any day. CCW programs there were fought by law enforcement initially for the same reasons you cite. The fears have been proven unfounded and now law enforcement is either neutral or actually promotes the permit system. I hear your fears but they are simply not reality. RT

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That's quite interesting. The Texas and Florida scenarios definitely have NY beat..........so, I'd expect that random gun violence would be rampant in those areas.

What's the deal?

If such individuals are permitted to carry a weapon, do they not pull it and threaten folks at every conceivable opportunity?

Getting a CCW is not that easy. They make you jump through hoops and its not a gimme. Prior record and you can forget it. Loose cannons are not even likely to go through the process of getting the permit and just carry illegally. The people that do get a permit and then break the law, even for minor infractions like "brandishing" (waving a gun around), will get the maximum penalty as the Judge will assume since you are a CCW you should know better! Maybe what I should have said is 99.8% of the people who pursue and obtain a CCW permit are honest, levelheaded folks. I carried for years and nobody knew when I was carrying. I never drank more than one beer if I was carrying. I was always very careful. I have a great respect for firearms and in my case the act of exercising my CCW right INCREASED my awareness even more. Again, this is my experience and my opinion of the other CCW's I have met. RT

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That's interesting. Yep, if the effort involved to get the CCW is significant and they can reject it if any background check comes up "questionable"...........it would explain why the "problems" don't manifest themselves in a big way.

Here in NY, you cannot get a full carry without a justifiable cause. No problem with a home permit or a target permit.........but full carry permits are not given unless there is a good reason.

Huh? You mean you need a permit in NY to keep a gun at home or go target shooting? The only things you need permits for here are concealed carry (open carry is legal w/o a permit) and class III weapons (full auto).

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I find it very interesting that whenever these shootings take place, each side of the gun control issue steps up to explain how the incident proves their point. School shooting? Wouldn't have happened if more people carried weapons. More guns! More guns! (always a great idea to have more lethal weapons among the populace). Mall shooting? Ban the guns!! As if it would even be possible to eliminate guns from society (imagine the great black market economy that would develop).

The thing that freaks me out is knowing that there are so many unhappy, lonely, sick, desperate people in this country. Does anybody stop to wonder what the f**k is wrong with our society? Where did we go so wrong that a person could feel so disconnected from their fellow man that they would choose to take people with them when they decide to end their lives? I swear, I think I would prefer the occasional politically-motivated suicide bombing than these random acts of desperation. Heck, at least the suicide bomber believes in something! The only thing the suicide shooter believes is that he has no more options left. Something is wrong with this picture and it isn't guns or lack thereof.

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I would agree that there is something seriously wrong with society today. I believe that the problem is the destruction of the core family beliefs. There are too many broken homes where children do not have positive male and female role models (it really does take two). Most families are two income families and parents are all too willing to sit their children down in front of the TV to baby sit them. Parents no longer have the time to sit with their children and do homework, or talk to their kids about issues in their personal lives, or explain to their kids that the glorification of violence that they see on TV is wrong. Children today are not taught to respect others. I could go on and on, but I think you get my point.

Well, we keep paying people to have kids. Come time to take care of them, they don't have the time.

Can't do that. You can't really punish the kids because the law prevents you from doing that

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I agree with you completely. I am not really arguing for more guns, just that restricting persons that have already been duly authorized to possess and carry weapons, doesn't really make sense. Statistically these people are no threat at all to you or me and MAY make a difference in a situation where a lunatic starts shooting randomly. Does that make sense?

Regarding the societal problems a small study was done recently that showed a very interesting correlation between the abandonment of state institutionalized mental care and violent attacks by persons with mental problems. Many of the previously committed persons that are now out on the streets and responsible for the violence. There are plenty of activist groups that think people with mental illness should be able to do whatever they want. I am not advocating wholesale "incarceration" of mentally diseased persons but there are many, many examples of doctors highly recommending treatment for patients. The patients are under no obligation to seek treatment, they don't feel they need it, and are generally left alone until they hurt someone. Its too damned late at this point. I'm sorry, but if you are psychotic or schizophrenic then you need to be medicated and forced by the State if necessary. The VT shooter is a prime example. He was ordered to seek care by a judge and he refused to comply. Of course, the NICS should have been notified once he did not but the system is full of holes when it comes to mental issues. The unfortunate truth is far to many people do not get the care they need and this is a tragedy that is greater even than the actions of a few random shooters. RT

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Yep........no handguns without a license. And it takes a good six months to get said license.........even for a home permit or a target permit.

If you tried to do an open carry, you'd get about five blocks before being arrested.