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A264172 02-29-2008 11:50 PM

150 MPG conventional diesel
 
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/02/loremo_ag_157_m.php

Brian Carlton 02-29-2008 11:57 PM

........ought to do great in the crash tests..........:rolleyes:

LaRondo 03-01-2008 01:14 AM

Oh, Brain ... good thing I see you right here. You know, I am lazy, so I didn't do any investigative forum search on alternative diesel fuel, maybe you could point in that general direction ...

Oh well, I just found 'whunter's' Biofuel and WVO sticky ... ;)

Brian Carlton 03-01-2008 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LaRondo (Post 1779044)
Oh, Brain ... good thing I see you right here. You know, I am lazy, so I didn't do any investigative forum search on alternative diesel fuel, maybe you could point in that general direction ...

Oh well, I just found 'whunter's' Biofuel and WVO sticky ... ;)

These guys are the source:

http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/6/ubb.x?a=cfrm&s=447609751

POS 03-01-2008 10:05 AM

Try not to crash, but I wouldn't mind $12,000 157mpg car for my 100% highway commute. It'd be cheaper than the wagon.

http://i.treehugger.com/files/Loremo_Diesel.jpg
http://i.treehugger.com/files/loremo_back.jpg

Brian Carlton 03-01-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by POS (Post 1779181)
Try not to crash, but I wouldn't mind $12,000 157mpg car for my 100% highway commute. It'd be cheaper than the wagon.

...........if you hit a bicycle..........you would be dead.:eek:

Medmech 03-01-2008 10:55 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wh_A4nyjxYM

http://evolution.loremo.com/content/view/94/151/lang,en/

Brian Carlton 03-01-2008 11:23 AM


Well, if those are true..........that's positively amazing. It's certainly some type of composite..........and the fact that it doesn't fracture on impact is one huge accomplishment.

rwthomas1 03-01-2008 03:15 PM

Everyone assumes that lightweight means unsafe. This is just not the case given a structure is engineered correctly. F1 cars are amazingly safe given the speeds and impacts they are subjected to and extremely light. Great advances have been made with composites. The naysayers will point out that a 126 sedan is a better choice if you are going to be run down by a semi, and I agree, however life is not without risk. No 126 is every going to get 150mpg either. I have loved some small cars over the years; VW bugs, MGB's, Miata's, 32 Ford roadsters, etc. None of these is particularly safe in a world full of oblivious SUV driving imbeciles and semi trucks. That doesn't stop me from liking them or enjoying them. If I needed a ultra-mileage vehicle I would consider one of these cars. I'll take my chances. RT

LaRondo 03-01-2008 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1779214)
Well, if those are true..........that's positively amazing. It's certainly some type of composite..........and the fact that it doesn't fracture on impact is one huge accomplishment.

It's a rubber car! :eek: Thanks for the link.

Brian Carlton 03-01-2008 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rwthomas1 (Post 1779331)
Everyone assumes that lightweight means unsafe.


Everyone is usually correct.

The formula is conservation of momentum. MV going into a collision equals MV going out (elastic collisions). A 1000 lb. vehicle is not going to fare very well if it's up against a 4000 lb. Mercedes. The vehicle might be well equipped to prevent deformation of it's body and structure...........however, the occupants will all be killed due to the acceleration forces.

I'm quite impressed with the crash test video............but, be assured that it's no match for any heavy sedan or light truck ($hitboxes included).

peragro 03-02-2008 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1779495)
Everyone is usually correct.

The formula is conservation of momentum. MV going into a collision equals MV going out (elastic collisions). A 1000 lb. vehicle is not going to fare very well if it's up against a 4000 lb. Mercedes. The vehicle might be well equipped to prevent deformation of it's body and structure...........however, the occupants will all be killed due to the acceleration forces.

I'm quite impressed with the crash test video............but, be assured that it's no match for any heavy sedan or light truck ($hitboxes included).

That must have hurt for you to type:D

But to quote a famous engineer; "You canna change the laws of Physics!"

Anyhow, I'd like to see a real crash with the Loremo rather than a computer model. Some of those Eurobox cars seemed to do rather well in partial head-ons. Perhaps this one will do the same but you can only say definitively once you've crashed about 20 of them.

Emmerich 03-02-2008 03:15 AM

I like the Smartcar crash test at 70MPH. The passenger cage stays intact. Then there is a video where it hits an S class. Can you say pingpong ball?

Brian Carlton 03-02-2008 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Emmerich (Post 1779803)
I like the Smartcar crash test at 70MPH. The passenger cage stays intact. Then there is a video where it hits an S class. Can you say pingpong ball?

And the Smart car is considerably heavier than this vehicle..........correct?

Medmech 03-02-2008 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1779929)
And the Smart car is considerably heavier than this vehicle..........correct?

660kg vs 900kg


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