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That, but also to let our troops clean out his enemies (militant Sunnis and rival/renegade Shiites) and then to give us an excuse to leave. There's probably nothing else that Al-Sadr wants more. Unfortunately for both him and us, it hasn't worked out too well yet.

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Old 04-09-2008, 04:14 PM
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Because the U.S. doesn't officially sanction assassinations.

Maybe not OFFICIALLY....

But what about Iran back in '53?

Diem in Vietnam in '63?

Allende in Chile in '73?


I am not into conspiracy theories, or anything like that, but I think, that UNOFFICIOUSLY, the U.S. government didn't mind at all.
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How about the number of times the CIA tried to assassinate Castro? Didn't they once try to hire the mafia to do it?
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CIA is NOT ALLOWED to do that any more! Thank Jimmy Carter for stopping the judicious culling of bad guys and Bill Clinton for not even letting us talk to 'bad guys'
That's not true. What about all the recent Predator strikes on suspected Al-Qaeda targets?
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Old 04-09-2008, 05:07 PM
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Maybe not OFFICIALLY....

But what about Iran back in '53?

Diem in Vietnam in '63?

Allende in Chile in '73?


I am not into conspiracy theories, or anything like that, but I think, that UNOFFICIOUSLY, the U.S. government didn't mind at all.
It's one of those things, the government simply doesn't know anything about ...

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Old 04-09-2008, 05:26 PM
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I absolutely agree...with cutting off the head!
Or kill the body and the head later.
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I don't know. Call me naive or whatever.

But how come the CIA or whoever just can't fight smart and TAKE OUT this "anti- American cleric Moqtada al-Sadr"?

Give me one reason they shouldn't .... it might fragment the group so totally, that it would wander away in confusion , or be like a snake with the head chopped off.

Why the hell not identify and TAKE OUT all those damned militant clerics?

On the theory,

"Cut off the head, and the body will die"
Probably for the same reason Israel never put a bullet in Arafat's head. If there was even a hint that Israel took him out the place would have exploded. My guess is that if Sadir is taken out, all hell will break loose.
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My guess is that if Sadir is taken out, all hell will break loose.
Perhaps so. But nothing is being accomplished today with the way things are going. Perhaps if hell broke loose, things might get better in the long run. You can fix a tattered old car by plugging one problem at a time or maybe sometimes, you might be better taking a financial hit today and buying a whole new car with way less problems. Sure, it will mean a car payment and increased insurance. However, the other way, you are paying more for it in the long run
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Funny that just recently you argued against pulling out of Iraq, but that would certainly break the hell loose as you call for. That might not be a bad thing, as long as we're not in the middle of it. That's why I said don't assassinate Al-Sadr now, because we're still there. It's not like that would be an easy thing to do anyway. That guy is very sneaky and has good security and intelligence.
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Funny that just recently you argued against pulling out of Iraq,

but that would certainly break the hell loose as you call for.

That might not be a bad thing, as long as we're not in the middle of it.

That's why I said don't assassinate Al-Sadr now, because we're still there.
I did.

Yes but we won't be able to control it after hell is done.

I'm pretty sure we will somehow be in the middle of it one way or the other.

I'm saying that even if hell does break loose, we might be able to control it in some way or the other. However, if we move out of the neighborhood and hell breaks loose, we cannot control it even if we wanted to.
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I'll make a green zone! Give me the good old 10th Panzer!

Pulling back should only be done to give you maneuver room. The enemy lacks modern equipment and tactics, we can best them on the field!
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I'll make a green zone! Give me the good old 10th Panzer!

Pulling back should only be done to give you maneuver room. The enemy lacks modern equipment and tactics, we can best them on the field!
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Now thats more my style. Nuck them then suck the rest of the oil out of the glass floored, self lighting parking lot.


I don't see how thats such a bad option, who will really miss the middle east?
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Now thats more my style. Nuck them then suck the rest of the oil out of the glass floored, self lighting parking lot.


I don't see how thats such a bad option, who will really miss the middle east?
That works too

Probably the same people that miss a hemmariod.
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