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TheDon 08-12-2008 01:52 PM

No Delorean for me
 
t was a 1981, grey interior, 5 speed, dark grey wheels(incorrect for the vin) and a sub 5k VIN car( it was a high 4000 VIN). My bank denied my loan, my friend couldn't help me because he was, ironicly just let go from his job that day, and my other friends mom had a mental fit. Sure, I'm holding $1500 in my hands right now, and all I needed was $3500 for the complete car. Heck, the torsion bar is worth $1k and the hood alone could bring in close to $1500 with the right buyer.But I was not interested in parting out a Delorean, especially this one.

This car was mint, forward of the engine compartment, frikn mint! only 20k on the odometer( the angle drive could have broken at some point though). No frame rust, no dings, no dents, no scratches. The interior was complete, just not all put together. The only stainless panel that would need replacing or work was the right rear quarter panel. It was destroyed in the accident and replaced with a panel off the "Fast and the Furious" Delorean that we all make fun of on DMCTalk.com.

So, there you have it, I almost lived the dream but the dream escaped me. It is not my time yet and the right car has not found me. It shall be said, When the time comes, I will know.

Chalk this up to my first one that got away from me, probably many more to come and go before I find one. I want to say my $280 that went to the Delorean Owners Association was a waste of money, but I do have an almost complete set of Delorean World magazines now that I can read over and learn torsion bar adjustments and oil changes and door adjustments before I even get my car.

"Live the Dream"





now I have to drive the stupid mercedes...



my blog

http://www.bttfblog.com/

Mistress 08-12-2008 03:05 PM

TheDon- Use the money for a good laptop.....there will be many many more Delorean's in your life just not right now. I'm sorry.

TheDon 08-12-2008 03:10 PM

I already bought the stupid laptop that prevented me from buying the car... damn piece of crap sony viao had to die at the wrong time...

E150GT 08-12-2008 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 1936925)
t was a 1981, grey interior, 5 speed, dark grey wheels(incorrect for the vin) and a sub 5k VIN car( it was a high 4000 VIN). My bank denied my loan, my friend couldn't help me because he was, ironicly just let go from his job that day, and my other friends mom had a mental fit. Sure, I'm holding $1500 in my hands right now, and all I needed was $3500 for the complete car. Heck, the torsion bar is worth $1k and the hood alone could bring in close to $1500 with the right buyer.But I was not interested in parting out a Delorean, especially this one.

This car was mint, forward of the engine compartment, frikn mint! only 20k on the odometer( the angle drive could have broken at some point though). No frame rust, no dings, no dents, no scratches. The interior was complete, just not all put together. The only stainless panel that would need replacing or work was the right rear quarter panel. It was destroyed in the accident and replaced with a panel off the "Fast and the Furious" Delorean that we all make fun of on DMCTalk.com.

So, there you have it, I almost lived the dream but the dream escaped me. It is not my time yet and the right car has not found me. It shall be said, When the time comes, I will know.

Chalk this up to my first one that got away from me, probably many more to come and go before I find one. I want to say my $280 that went to the Delorean Owners Association was a waste of money, but I do have an almost complete set of Delorean World magazines now that I can read over and learn torsion bar adjustments and oil changes and door adjustments before I even get my car.

"Live the Dream"





now I have to drive the stupid mercedes...



my blog

http://www.bttfblog.com/

Now I love the Deloreans but I would never buy one. Especially since you can't even afford the 3500 to buy it. I'm sure that thing would be a mean money pit, unless you want to just look at it. It might be a blessing that you cant get this thing right now

TheDon 08-12-2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by E150GT (Post 1937001)
Now I love the Deloreans but I would never buy one. Especially since you can't even afford the 3500 to buy it. I'm sure that thing would be a mean money pit, unless you want to just look at it. It might be a blessing that you cant get this thing right now

oh I have the $3500.. its just not all here at the moment.. I have a few checks coming in from scholarships that were overpaid to the school, a bonus from work, some stuff I sold on ebay... etc.. but they haven't shown up...


the plan was to buy it and store it in my uncles barn until I would have been ready to work on it. $3500 for a good rolling chasis is like a deal in the delorean community... $3500 will probably buy you a complete fuel system and some small interior bits ... the stainless body panels are worth $10k in the current condition.... uhhhggghhhhhhh..

I'm going to flip through my somewhat complete collection of Delorean World magazines and then go to Target to buy some magazine holders for them all...

BodhiBenz1987 08-12-2008 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 1937016)
the plan was to buy it and store it in my uncles barn until I would have been ready to work on it. $3500 for a good rolling chasis is like a deal in the delorean community... $3500 will probably buy you a complete fuel system and some small interior bits ... the stainless body panels are worth $10k in the current condition.... uhhhggghhhhhhh..

Geez, maybe I should go buy this thing.:P

PaulC 08-12-2008 09:44 PM

What's the significance of a sub 5k VIN?

79Mercy 08-12-2008 10:01 PM

Quote:

now I have to drive the stupid mercedes...
Well thats not so bad. But I have to agree, a Delorean would be better.

TheDon 08-12-2008 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulC (Post 1937384)
What's the significance of a sub 5k VIN?

its just a lower VIN... the earlier cars had better build quality( ha)

the lower the vin the better for the most part. Plus it has the hood with the grooves in it but no gas flap.

I would rather have a 2000 series or a 1000 series VIN just for the grooved hood with the gas flap and the ability to say " my vin is lower than yours"

but once you dip into the 900's and such things get weird. Lowest VIN is 500 which was supposedly the first car., 501 has gone missing, 502 I have sat in and is the rare factory twin turbo car.

but even before those you have some pilot cars, which pilot 25 is the closest to production car pilot they made. Prototype 1 aka Proto1 was the car JZD drove to press releases and dealerships to drum up interests. That was the car we were supposed to get but instead got what we see today. I havent sat in that one since its previous owner, DMC-FL, sold it. But he kept the original tires and some other spare parts. The rear tires on it are like 265's!

back onto the VIN's

eagle-co94 has 16336, which in actuallity is VIN 11336, weird, yes( we found it on the drivers side door when we removed the headliner panel to look for "cave art". It was because it was made after the first closing of the plant and dmc bumped up the vins for the 83 year....

Johnhef 08-12-2008 10:41 PM

Yeah all the cars in the D world are referred to by the last 5 or 4 of it's VIN. I almost had #6078, an 81, many years ago ;) I'll pick one up someday.

You saw 502? cool! I have a pic of it somewhere from the Tennessee meet I played at. Just checked an early attempt at a website of mine when I was 14 or 15- it's still up! http://www.twinturbodeloreans.8m.com/

TheDon 08-12-2008 11:06 PM

which car is that?

I need to upload the pics from the DMC open house that was on saturday. There was a car with 501 miles, 100% original guaranteed concourse car. IIRC its a 700 series


we used it to poke and prod to find how access some bolts and stuff while it was on the lift the whole time

Johnhef 08-12-2008 11:14 PM

oh well looks like the image got blocked, so I removed it. that was 6078.

TheDon 08-13-2008 01:22 AM

6078, any idea where that ... no... wait

nvm

I found 6801 the other night while James and I were dropping off the trailer he rented. Its for sale ;)

ForcedInduction 08-13-2008 03:08 AM

You're lucky you didn't get it. They are cool to look at but overrated and weak in the power department.

johnathan1 08-13-2008 03:41 AM

Yea, not a whole lot of power...they are cool, but I think I would get bored with it. I think they are collector cars more than anything.

BobK 08-13-2008 08:13 AM

Didn't the first 200 or so have problems with the doors? Think they were made on prototype tooling instead of production tooling or something like that. Afraid the car just did not live up to the hype.

POS 08-13-2008 09:01 AM

If you need a loan to buy a $5000 Delorean, then...

TheDon 08-13-2008 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS (Post 1937697)
If you need a loan to buy a $5000 Delorean, then...

?


Quote:

Originally Posted by BobK (Post 1937662)
Didn't the first 200 or so have problems with the doors? Think they were made on prototype tooling instead of production tooling or something like that. Afraid the car just did not live up to the hype.

pretty much

POS 08-13-2008 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 1937727)
?

...then you shouldn't own a Delorean.

TheDon 08-13-2008 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by POS (Post 1937782)
...then you shouldn't own a Delorean.

bah.. tons of people are... as we know.. screwed with loans currently, I wouldn't have been one of them

POS 08-13-2008 09:11 PM

Good man. I'm fine with loans, but I try to keep them to a minimum. There's actually a better argument for taking a loan on a $5000 Delorean than on a $25000 anything.

BodhiBenz1987 08-13-2008 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 1938000)
bah.. tons of people are...

Indeed ... how's the economy been doing this year, by the way?;) We're so accustomed to spending money we haven't earned we don't even know it isn't normal.

That said, I'm not one to quash an aspiration like yours, which in some sense is an investment. You have an interest in Deloreans and want to purchase one as a collectors item and hobby, not because you want the neighbors to know you're on social par with them. Taking out a loan to purchase something that will likely appreciate is not irresponsible in my opinion, assuming you aren't already drowning in debt. You obviously know a lot about the cars and will make an intelligent purchase when you can. Keep saving and looking and hopefully another gem will turn up at a good price for you.

davestlouis 08-13-2008 10:43 PM

Yeah, but think about the poor bastard at the bank who has to tell the VP that he OK'd a loan on a Delorean, and can you imagine what a fit the VP would have if that loan went sour and they had to repo it? Try running that thing through the dealer auction and watch it fall flat on its face.

My take on it is this: I don't owe money on toys...if I can't pay cash, I just wait.
A neighbor of mine had one when the Deloreans were new, and it was a neat novelty piece, but he seemed to drive his 450SL more often than not. I was 16 years old, and thought that anything had to be cooler than my dad's Dodge Omni and my mom's Cutlass Supreme...

Johnhef 08-13-2008 11:08 PM

here ya go Joe, from 2004, 502 is just sticking out in the corner of the pic. The Legend Industries single turbo D is next to that missing its grille badge. I'm on stage with the hat ;)
http://a4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...5f04dfc99b.jpg

BodhiBenz1987 08-13-2008 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davestlouis (Post 1938369)
My take on it is this: I don't owe money on toys...if I can't pay cash, I just wait. ..

Same here, but I've been pretty fortunate, and I try to put myself in the shoes of others. I like to earn my money before I spend it, and I'm lucky enough to be able to do that.:o

TheDon 08-14-2008 12:31 AM

I have to change the title of this thread... ;)

Tom Sweeney 08-14-2008 09:07 AM

Did you make it to the DCS event at Gettysburg in June? There were plenty of Deloreans and Bricklins. I have 2 Bricklins and my son recently purchased a Delorean.

TheDon 08-14-2008 03:20 PM

nah, didn't make it


you have 2 bricklins? I've got to see some pics... I want to actually see one in person too

SwampYankee 08-14-2008 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 1938442)
I have to change the title of this thread... ;)

I notice you changed your sig...

iwrock 08-14-2008 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwampYankee (Post 1938894)
I notice you changed your sig...


I have too many cars for my sig... :p

A264172 08-14-2008 04:15 PM

Don't give up man.

You could still salvage the Delorean dream by putting the $1,500 into coke and turning it over a few times...

Johnhef 08-14-2008 10:00 PM

:rolleyes:

Hatterasguy 08-14-2008 10:03 PM

IMHO you shouldn't buy toys with loans.

Debt should only be taken on with investments, to make you money.

TheDon 08-14-2008 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 1939212)
IMHO you shouldn't buy toys with loans.

Debt should only be taken on with investments, to make you money.

well, seeing as a Deloran appreciates with quality, plus they are fairly rare... I think I can turn this little car into a fair chunk of change.

davestlouis 08-15-2008 12:08 AM

Lord have mercy, cars are such a scary investment, no phyme or reason to it. Even if it appreciates significantly, the cost to keep and feed and insure a car is such that unless values go nuts like some late 60's muscle cars, it's still something you should do for fun, not to retire on.

tonkovich 08-15-2008 12:33 AM

buy a car as an investment?

i think we call this a rationalization.:D

but don't worry, you are not alone. i remember '78? corvette indy pace cars. they were going to be like gold, right about now.:D

TheDon 08-15-2008 12:42 AM

pffttt.. Vettes are lame... Deloreans increase in value as the price of scrap metal goes up!!!

plus the mint left front fender is worth what I paid for the car.

pics!!

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74...20pics/004.jpg
rare hood!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74...20pics/001.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74...20pics/006.jpg
eagle-co94 helping me out
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74...20pics/002.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74...20pics/003.jpg

TylerH860 08-15-2008 12:51 AM

Are you posing or trying to hold the door up?:D

I remember a complete, but non-running Delorean was for sale here locally a few years ago for 5k. It was sitting in a Volvo dealerships back lot. It was in rough shape, but still very cool.

TheDon 08-15-2008 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerH860 (Post 1939350)
Are you posing or trying to hold the door up?:D

I remember a complete, but non-running Delorean was for sale here locally a few years ago for 5k. It was sitting in a Volvo dealerships back lot. It was in rough shape, but still very cool.

I have a space age rod(a 2x4) holding it up.. The door weighs like 80 lbs with the door lock and all that junk in it.

Chad300tdt 08-15-2008 09:28 AM

Congratulations Joe!!! I thought it wasn't going to happen.

I guess intense desire always find a way.:D:D:cool:

75Sv1 08-15-2008 11:28 AM

The Don (McFly) finds his car. Congrats. I have more respect for a car collector who owns a car because they like, OK possesed by, it. Body looks fairly straight. Looks more like interior work.
Tom

suginami 08-15-2008 11:34 AM

Congratulations on purchasing the car, Don!

What the hell, you only live once, right?:)

TheDon 08-15-2008 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 75Sv1 (Post 1939619)
The Don (McFly) finds his car. Congrats. I have more respect for a car collector who owns a car because they like, OK possesed by, it. Body looks fairly straight. Looks more like interior work.
Tom

the interior is complete, most of it is in the luggage compartment. Lets see the Bricklins!

TheDon 08-15-2008 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suginami (Post 1939624)
Congratulations on purchasing the car, Don!

What the hell, you only live once, right?:)

Bought a Mercedes at 15 with cash

Bought a Delorean at 19 with cash

I think I'm doing pretty well in life... lol

SwampYankee 08-16-2008 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 1940193)
Bought a Mercedes at 15 with cash

Bought a Delorean at 19 with cash

I think I'm doing pretty well in life... lol

Congrats on the purchase, Joe! Looks like you'll be busy for awhile.

I know it's probably considered blasphemy in the Delorean circles, but the painted panel prompted the question. Do painted ones show up at the shows? Are they generally shunned by the afficianados? I've always wondered what one would look like in the usual sportscar colors.

bgkast 08-16-2008 02:04 PM

Great Scott!

Hatterasguy 08-16-2008 02:11 PM

Now that you have it, it does look pretty cool.

What can fit in the back? Maybe a Ford 289 with some trick internals that will run to 8k?:D

TheDon 08-16-2008 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 1940569)
Now that you have it, it does look pretty cool.

What can fit in the back? Maybe a Ford 289 with some trick internals that will run to 8k?:D

I did entertain the thought of a Mercedes V12 but then decided it would not fit. Although the idea of wheelies at every light is fun... my wallet doesn't like it.

I'm just going to go with a factory motor. Delorean Parts North West has a few used engines for sale. $750 plus freight, working at a place with a loading dock is awesome. I'll just clear it with my boss and bam... the truck comes and I have an engine. Compare the price of a good used engine to that of a NOS crate engine with a stage II upgrade from DMC, which runs $8k... pffft... I will have a nice running delorean for under 10k when I am done.

The engine was one of the other large parts to buy but now that I know I can get used I have no issues. The torsion bar and right rear quarter panel are my only big pieces. The torsion bar will run me anywhere from $800 to $2k and the panel I can get NOS for about $950.


Also, my mom is going to let me put it in our garage so now I can work on it when I please. It will be kept out of the weather.. :) happy days

79Mercy 08-16-2008 07:47 PM

What are your future plans for it?

davestlouis 08-16-2008 08:03 PM

I thought that was just the PRV v-6, couldn't you just grab an old Volvo 760 and snag the engine?


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