Scientist may mistakenly create quasar inside earth today.
 

Meet Evans the Atom, who will end the world on Wednesday.



The man behind the world’s biggest scientific experiment, which critics claim could cause the end of the world, is a Welsh miner’s son who has admitted blowing things up as a child.

Dr Lyn Evans, who has been dubbed Evans the Atom, will this week switch on a giant particle accelerator designed to unlock the secrets of the Big Bang.

But the 63-year-old physicist revealed yesterday that his passion for science was fuelled by the relatively small bangs he had created with his chemistry set at his council house in Aberdare in the Welsh valleys.


‘I was more interested in chemistry than physics when I was young,’ he said.

‘I had a number of chemistry sets. Like everybody, I used to make explosives. I even blew the fuses of the whole house a few times.’

His interest in physics grew at his boys-only grammar school, where lessons had an added attraction because they were attended by girls bussed in from a nearby school that lacked a physics teacher.

On Wednesday, Dr Evans will fire up the Large Hadron Collider, a 17-mile-long doughnut-shaped tunnel that will smash sub-atomic particles together at nearly the speed of light.

Built by the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN), the collider lies beneath the French-Swiss border, near the institution’s headquarters in Geneva, at depths ranging from 170ft to 600ft.

The aim of the £4.4billion experiment is to recreate the conditions that existed a fraction of a second after the Big Bang – the birth of the universe – and provide vital clues to the building blocks of life.

It will track the spray of particles thrown out by collisions in a search for the elusive Higgs Boson, a theoretical entity that supposedly lends weight, or mass, to the elementary particles. So important is this mysterious substance that it has been called the ‘God Particle’.

Scientists also hope to shed some light on the invisible material that exists between particles – dubbed ‘dark matter’ as no one knows what it really is – which makes up most of the universe.


But a handful of scientists believe that the experiment could create a shower of unstable black holes that could ‘eat’ the planet from within, and they are launching last-ditch efforts to halt it in the courts.

One of them, Professor Otto Rossler, a retired German chemist, said he feared the experiment may create a devastating quasar – a mass of energy fuelled by black holes – inside the Earth.

‘Nothing will happen for at least four years,’ he said. ‘Then someone will spot a light ray coming out of the Indian Ocean during the night and no one will be able to explain it.

‘A few weeks later, we will see a similar beam of particles coming out of the soil on the other side of the planet. Then we will know there is a little quasar inside the planet.’

Prof Rossler said that as the spinning-top-like quasar devoured the world from within, the two jets emanating from it would grow and catastrophes such as earthquakes and tsunamis would occur at the points they emerged from the Earth.

‘The weather will change completely, wiping out life, and very soon the whole planet will be eaten in a magnificent scenario – if you could watch it from the moon. A Biblical Armageddon. Even cloud and fire will form, as it says in the Bible.’

He said that attempts were still being made in the European Court of Human Rights to halt the experiment on the grounds that it violated the right to life. The court has, however, already rejected calls for a temporary delay in the project, and it is unlikely to come to a speedy decision about whether the CERN experiment should be halted for good.

Meanwhile Dr Walter Wagner, an American scientist who has been warning about the dangers of particle accelerators for 20 years, is awaiting a ruling on a lawsuit he filed a fortnight ago in his home state of Hawaii.

He fears the experiments might unwittingly create something he calls a ‘strangelet’ that could result in a fusion reaction that might ultimately turn the Earth into a supernova, or an exploding star.


But Dr Evans, the leader of the project, who has devoted 14 years of his life to building the vast particle accelerator, is dismissive of the doom-mongers.

In fact, he is so relaxed about the project, he even wears shorts to work.

He said that Prof Rossler was a ‘crazy’ retired professor who had invented his own theory of relativity.

‘We have shown him where his elementary errors are, but of course people like that just will not listen,’ said Dr Evans.

Meanwhile, Dr Wagner’s fears were ‘totally and completely’ unfounded. ‘There are thousands of scientists around the world who have been preparing this machine and they know what they are talking about, unlike these guys,’ he added.

Dr Evans says his real nightmare is not that he will destroy the world but that, with the cameras rolling, the machine will break down. ‘This is not the first accelerator I have commissioned, but the first under the glare of the whole world,’ he said.

‘My main worry is that we’ve got a huge amount of equipment and it is new. If something trips off, we are down for hours and we have all these Press people sitting around.

‘We are not used to that. We are used to setting things up quietly and announcing it afterwards.’



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COOL !

- Peter.

That would be very cool to watch -didn't say what time they are going to do it tomorrow.

Great - something else to worry about..

Oh very cool, if we can figure that stuff out some cool toys can be made.

I hope they don't break anything important playing around with atoms and whutnot . . . .

Dee8go here's your wish to go out with a big Bang.

I'm not ready yet. I want at least one more spin in the Dee8gonator before I go . . . .

After all that hard work you put into refinishing those seats I can understand that.

I'm not sure there would be anything to watch? Other than firing up the massive unit, the real action occurs in fractions of milliseconds, and the event is invisible to the eye. Then comes the exciting part...study the trails left by the collisions...

...now the "end of the world" part might be worth a front row seat... :cool:

Wish they would do this after payday!

Oopsie! Anybody have some JBWeld?

just don't eat the pudding.

This is ironic in a way. If the US under Clinton had not decided to turn it's back on science and kill the SCSC in Texas back in 1993 the US would have had an almost two decade lead on the rest of the world in this field instead of having mere "observer" status in a European lab.

- Peter.

I thought Reagan killed it. He liked his nukes more immediate.

It was killed off in 1993.

- Peter.

By congress, Clinton fought to keep it.

It's a shame. As far as science goes the US is now most famous for supporting creationism and denying climate change.

They were almost finished building it when it was stopped . It actually cost more to dismantle it then it had cost to build .

Lets hear it for the Mayans!! their prediction that the earth ends in 2012 might be right on schedule!

Let me make sure I understand this correctly ... we have four years before the world ends, right? I was originally under the impression that it was going to end tomorrow. That would put a lot of pressure on me. But heck, if we've got four years, I'm going to continue procrastinating my speaker project.

Well that just stinks. I guess I'll have to watch it from FL510. :mad:

But I'll be sure to come down and post some pictures for y'all. :D

oh...wait...never mind...:o

Did they really say the world would end in 2012 or is it merely their calendar that ends in 2012?

It's sort of an anomaly that three ancient calendars end in 2012. Spooky:cool:

All of them Mayan? I think people tend to read into this too much. What were the Mayans supposed to do, make a calender to infinity? Besides, they couldn't even predict their own demise.

we will find out for certain in four years.

forgive me, but where's the irony?

Either that or they were incredibly perceptive as regards this quasar that's going to destroy the earth.

Theres an odd light shining out of my toilet.

The irony is that that nation that inherited the scientfic fruits of the enlightenment and used those to win WWII and build a scientificly based civilization of unequalled technical pre-eminence thereafter decided to turn it's back on basic research and is now playing second fiddle to the EU therein.

- Peter.

Yeah because the poor SOB that got stuck making them was like, thats 3k years in the future, I'm going fishing. My lazy kids can keep going. Than the kid runs off with some girl an it never gets finished.:D

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Stop eating lightning bugs.

One of the men that is outspoken against it. Otto Rössler
based his warnings on an obsolete proposition made by Max Abraham in 1912 surrounding Albert Einstein's theory of relativity as well as his own, yet theoretically rejected theorem and its implications. He also questioned the existence of the Hawking radiation which in theory should lead to the decay of micro black holes.

Apart from the refutation of his theory, which he challenged others to debate, his public step up and call for an LHC Safety Conference started a dicussion about the ethical limits of modern experimental physics in mainstream media all across Europe
Rössler has authored around 300 scientific papers in fields as wide-ranging as biogenesis, the origin of language, differentiable automata, chaotic attractors, endophysics, micro relativity, artificial universes, the hypertext encyclopedia, and world-changing technology.


Even if Otto is wrong and all of this is nonsense it is a good reason to seek to limit what one group can test on the earth without some form of waiting period and /or mutual consent .

Not irony. Though definitely unfortunate.

this is all just bogus stuff

Accelerate the particles.. to 88 MPH! It's not a doomsday device, it's a time machine! :)

http://www.newsgroper.com/files/post...%20future.jpeg

From the little I have heard about the whole Mayan 2012 thing, it marks the end of some cycle in time, where we start over on some other cycle. I believe it is also the point at which we move from Pieces to Aquarius...Where the Jesus fish change over to the water bearer blah blah blah
Don't get me started on religion and astrology. Anyway, some speculate that in 2012 the world will become at peace with itself from there on out. The problem, of course, is that there will be something horrible happen before that and whoever survives will then be at peace! Ha!
SO, cynical me thinks that if something actually does happen in 2012, it will be created by some wacko government somewhere that is merely playing along with everyone's fears.

Peter, I never would have dreamed you'd be flippant about this.

Who knows? Perhaps some things are best left alone. A tiny black hole? Do black holes just give up on their own? Or do they just keep on sucking up matter?

Either way, we wont find out from CERN. This whole nonsensical end of the world stuff already happened a couple of years ago when some experiments were conducted here in the USA.

- Peter.

Waiting period? Mutual consent? This isn't a handgun purchase or weired sex activity here. This is basic science. Who the hell is qualified to "mutually consent" to what humans can or cannot learn about the universe?

- Peter.

I just hope they tell me if they F up, so I can crawl into a bottle and die happy!:D

Basic science doesn't involve tampering with the earth with a theory that may destroy it.Although destroying the earth will cause us humans to learn a lot it is still something that should be open for debate before some goofball gives it a shot. There at least should have been some time to call James Bond to put this guy in his place.:D


Or maybe something like a LHC Safety Conference that Otto Rössler had tried to bring about as mentioned in post #1

Strange, fearing the unknown.

Largest particle collider conducts successful test
By ALEXANDER G. HIGGINS, Associated Press Writer
9 minutes ago

GENEVA - The world's largest particle collider passed its first major test by firing a beam of protons around a 17-mile (27-kilometer) underground ring Wednesday in what scientists hope is the next great step to understanding the makeup of the universe.

After a series of trial runs, two white dots flashed on a computer screen at 10:26 a.m. (0826 GMT) indicating that the protons had traveled the full length of the 4 billion Swiss franc (US$3.8 billion) Large Hadron Collider — described as the biggest physics experiment in history.

"There it is," project leader Lyn Evans said when the beam completed its lap.

Champagne corks popped in labs as far away as Chicago, where contributing and competing scientists watched the proceedings by satellite. Physicists around the world now have much greater power to smash the components of atoms together in attempts to learn about their structure.

"Well done, everybody," said Robert Aymar, director-general of the European Organization for Nuclear Research, to cheers from the assembled scientists in the collider's control room at the Swiss-French border.

The organization, known by its French acronym CERN, began firing the protons — a type of subatomic particle — around the tunnel in stages less than an hour earlier, with the first beam injection at 9:35 a.m. (0735 GMT).

Now that the beam has been successfully tested in a clockwise direction, CERN plans to send it counterclockwise. Eventually two beams will be fired in opposite directions with the aim of recreating conditions a split second after the big bang, which scientists theorize was the massive explosion that created the universe.

"My first thought was relief," said Evans, who has been working on the project since its inception in 1984. "This is a machine of enormous complexity. Things can go wrong at any time. But this morning has been a great start."

He didn't want to set a date, but said that he expected scientists would be able to conduct collisions for their experiments "within a few months."

The collider is designed to push the proton beam close to the speed of light, whizzing 11,000 times a second around the tunnel.

Scientists hope to eventually send two beams of protons through two tubes about the width of fire hoses, speeding through a vacuum that is colder and emptier than outer space. The paths of these beams will cross, and a few protons will collide. The collider's two largest detectors — essentially huge digital cameras weighing thousands of tons — are capable of taking millions of snapshots a second.

The CERN experiments could reveal more about "dark matter," antimatter and possibly hidden dimensions of space and time. It could also find evidence of the hypothetical particle — the Higgs boson — which is sometimes called the "God particle" because it is believed to give mass to all other particles, and thus to matter that makes up the universe.

The supercooled magnets that guide the proton beam heated slightly in the morning's testing, leading to a pause to recool them before trying the opposite direction.

The start of the collider came over the objections of some who feared the collision of protons could eventually imperil the Earth by creating micro-black holes, subatomic versions of collapsed stars whose gravity is so strong they can suck in planets and other stars.

"It's nonsense," said James Gillies, chief spokesman for CERN.

CERN was backed by leading scientists like Britain's Stephen Hawking , who declared the experiments to be absolutely safe.

Gillies told the AP that the most dangerous thing that could happen would be if a beam at full power were to go out of control, and that would only damage the accelerator itself and burrow into the rock around the tunnel.

Nothing of the sort occurred Wednesday, though the accelerator is still probably a year away from full power.

The project organized by the 20 European member nations of CERN has attracted researchers from 80 nations. Some 1,200 are from the United States, an observer country that contributed US$531 million. Japan, another observer, also is a major contributor.

Some scientists have been waiting for 20 years to use the LHC.

The complexity of manufacturing it required groundbreaking advances in the use of supercooled, superconducting equipment. The 2001 start and 2005 completion dates were pushed back by two years each, and the cost of the construction was 25 percent higher than originally budgeted in 1996, Luciano Maiani, who was CERN director-general at the time, told The Associated Press.

Maiani and the other three living former directors-general attended the launch Wednesday.

Smaller colliders have been used for decades to study the makeup of the atom. Less than 100 years ago scientists thought protons and neutrons were the smallest components of an atom's nucleus, but in stages since then experiments have shown they were made of still smaller quarks and gluons and that there were other forces and particles.

I just hope in 4 years the single word coming from Dr Atom isn't "oops!"


Time will tell.

...as if they WILL tell, if such an occurrence should unfold...

...imagine the global chaos!???

No, just go on as everything is normal, whistling cheerfully while locking the door as you leave the building...

Actually, ... we imploded. We are now inside a sphere of infinite surface and volume. It's just hard to tell the difference.

Wow Joe works fast!:D