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10-08-2008, 05:16 PM
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Crowd Control
Members of Congress were told they could face martial law if they didn't pass the bailout bill. This will not be the last time.
By Naomi Wolf 08/10/08 "AlterNet" -- Background: the First Brigade of the Third Infantry Division, three to four thousand soldiers, has been deployed in the United States as of October 1. Their stated mission is the form of crowd control they practiced in Iraq, subduing "unruly individuals," and the management of a national emergency. I am in Seattle and heard from the brother of one of the soldiers that they are engaged in exercises now. Amy Goodman reported that an Army spokesperson confirmed that they will have access to lethal and non lethal crowd control technologies and tanks. George Bush struck down Posse Comitatus, thus making it legal for military to patrol the U.S. He has also legally established that in the "War on Terror," the U.S. is at war around the globe and thus the whole world is a battlefield. Thus the U.S. is also a battlefield. He also led change to the 1807 Insurrection Act to give him far broader powers in the event of a loosely defined "insurrection" or many other "conditions" he has the power to identify. The Constitution allows the suspension of habeas corpus -- habeas corpus prevents us from being seized by the state and held without trial -- in the event of an "insurrection." With his own army force now, his power to call a group of protesters or angry voters "insurgents" staging an "insurrection" is strengthened. U.S. Rep. Brad Sherman of California said to Congress, captured on C-Span and viewable on YouTube, that individual members of the House were threatened with martial law within a week if they did not pass the bailout bill: "The only way they can pass this bill is by creating and sustaining a panic atmosphere. … Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday that the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousand points the first day and a couple of thousand on the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no."If this is true and Rep. Sherman is not delusional, I ask you to consider that if they are willing to threaten martial law now, it is foolish to assume they will never use that threat again. It is also foolish to trust in an orderly election process to resolve this threat. And why deploy the First Brigade? One thing the deployment accomplishes is to put teeth into such a threat. I interviewed Vietnam veteran, retired U.S. Air Force Colonel and patriot David Antoon for clarification: "If the President directed the First Brigade to arrest Congress, what could stop him?" "Nothing. Their only recourse is to cut off funding. The Congress would be at the mercy of military leaders to go to them and ask them not to obey illegal orders." "But these orders are now legal?'" "Correct." "If the President directs the First Brigade to arrest a bunch of voters, what would stop him?" "Nothing. It would end up in courts but the action would have been taken." "If the President directs the First Brigade to kill civilians, what would stop him?" "Nothing." "What would prevent him from sending the First Brigade to arrest the editor of the Washington Post?" "Nothing. He could do what he did in Iraq -- send a tank down a street in Washington and fire a shell into the Washington Post as they did into Al Jazeera, and claim they were firing at something else." "What happens to members of the First Brigade who refuse to take up arms against U.S. citizens?" "They'd probably be treated as deserters as in Iraq: arrested, detained and facing five years in prison. In Iraq a study by Ann Wright shows that deserters -- reservists who refused to go back to Iraq -- got longer sentences than war criminals." "Does Congress have any military of their own?" "No. Congress has no direct control of any military units. The Governors have the National Guard but they report to the President in an emergency that he declares." "Who can arrest the President?" "The Attorney General can arrest the President after he leaves or after impeachment." [Note: Prosecutor Vincent Bugliosi has asserted it is possible for District Attorneys around the country to charge President Bush with murder if they represent districts where one or more military members who have been killed in Iraq formerly resided.] "Given the danger do you advocate impeachment?" "Yes. President Bush struck down Posse Comitatus -- which has prevented, with a penalty of two years in prison, U.S. leaders since after the Civil War from sending military forces into our streets -- with a 'signing statement.' He should be impeached immediately in a bipartisan process to prevent the use of military forces and mercenary forces against U.S. citizens" "Should Americans call on senior leaders in the Military to break publicly with this action and call on their own men and women to disobey these orders?" "Every senior military officer's loyalty should ultimately be to the Constitution. Every officer should publicly break with any illegal order, even from the President." "But if these are now legal. If they say, 'Don't obey the Commander in Chief,' what happens to the military?" "Perhaps they would be arrested and prosecuted as those who refuse to participate in the current illegal war. That's what would be considered a coup." "But it's a coup already." "Yes." 
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10-08-2008, 05:26 PM
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No, the military is just here to use the jaws of life and rescue kitty-cats from trees...
BTW, did you see this? http://www.taser.com/products/military/Pages/TASERShockwave.aspx
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10-08-2008, 05:35 PM
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Put it this way. The President has his finger on the nukes. He could launch them too. Who is to say he cannot redirect them at the USA being safe in his bunker?
How do we even know if this is a real thing and not some item taken out of context?
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10-08-2008, 05:43 PM
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Due to the cleanly erased or non-existent serial numbers, investigators believe that the late-model Beretta firearms, similar to those carried by U.S. forces, were intended for people with “substantial government backing.” By Nunzia Vallini May 28, 2005 Original Article (English)  BRESCIA: The report forwarded by American intelligence officers is brief and to the point: "Hostiles" in Iraq are toting Berettas. Insurgents have a large number of Italian-made side arms, all recent-model weapons, and what is even more disturbing, with illegible or non-existent serial numbers. These phantom weapons were apparently of recent manufacture, but investigators have been unable to attribute them to legal imports during the early 1980s. The file has been forwarded by American intelligence to the Brescia public prosecutor's office, via the Italian secret services, and magistrates are determined to find where the weapons came from. Investigators have worked in total silence since an inquiry was opened in autumn 2004. Yesterday, however, judicial police visited the Foreign Ministrywith a warrant signed by Chief Public Prosecutor Giancarlo Tarquini for copies of documents. All the Brescia-based magistrate would say is, “It is our duty within the context of a confidential investigation." At historic Gardone Val Trompia, where Beretta has been manufacturing firearms since 1526, the company claims to know nothing of the investigation. "We know absolutely nothing,” a spokesman said. The documents taken regard legal exports made by Beretta over recent years. The aim seems to be to identify the channels through which the side arms traveled to end up in the hands of the "Iraqi resistance." The information gathered by the American armed forces is quite detailed. They have compiled a dossier on all weapons recovered from al-Qaeda militants and pro-Saddam insurgents since the start of operations in Iraq. Some of the weapons caches found are impressive.In one of Saddam's Baghdad palaces, 4,000 9mm Italian pistols were discovered -- still in their original packaging. The Gardone Val Trompia Company signed an agreement with the Baghdad authorities in the 1970s for the manufacture of old series 70 and 51 pistols. However, the weapons found by the Americans are state-of-the-art 92 models, which are standard U.S. Armed Forces issue, among others. Since it won the contract to supply the American Army, Beretta has agreed to rigid checks by U.S. intelligence. However, Beretta weapons are also manufactured in the United States and Brazil, and for some time there have been rumors of a Chinese copy. In fact, the United States has become a major market in side arms, because regulations governing the sale of handguns allow wholesalers to purchase very large quantities of weapons. The only difference is the price. The U.S. Marines pay $263 for a Beretta 92, but in Falluja, the going rate is $850 dollars. The crucial detail is the erasure of the serial numbers.The numbers do not appear to have been physically removed. Instead, the guns seem to have come off the production line without any serial numbers, or they could have been erased with high-tech industrial technology. The lack of serial numbers suggests that the weapons were intended for intelligence operations or terrorist cells with substantial government backing. The investigating magistrates in Brescia are reminded of an old inquiry by the Anti-mafia authority into a stock of Beretta pistols with no serial numbers, or with the serial numbers erased. The mystery involved preliminary investigations by Judge Carlo Palermo, but failed to reach any conclusions. Now the Americans face a similar quandary, but on a much larger scale. The total number of weapons found when Saddam fell, and recovered during anti-insurgency operations, runs into the many thousands. The final figure will certainly exceed 10,000, and the Brescia public prosecutor's office will have to try to shed light on their origin.
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10-08-2008, 05:44 PM
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What war crimes did they compare them to? Genocide? Stealing money? Deserters should be shot against the wall. They signed up and took the benefits and now they don't want to honor their contract?
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10-08-2008, 06:13 PM
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Oct. 1st Military starts Martial Law Mission, What !!, Why whats going to happen now?
Oct. 1st Military starts Martial Law Mission, What !!, Why whats going to happen now?
. I talked about this a week or two ago, and I get ridiculed !!! Oct. 1st Military starts Martial Law Mission, What !!, Why whats going to happen now?
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10-08-2008, 06:19 PM
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As they say, consider the source. No corroborating evidence, proper context, etc, etc.
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10-08-2008, 06:27 PM
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No verification required, it's out in plain view. Denial isn't going to change reality.
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10-08-2008, 06:33 PM
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What is out there in plain view? How many senators were "threatened" with arrest? What was the context of this thing? Neither is blind acceptance.
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10-08-2008, 06:34 PM
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10-08-2008, 06:34 PM
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10-08-2008, 06:52 PM
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10-08-2008, 07:02 PM
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