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Chris Bell · #61 01-28-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by t walgamuth

It doesn't look good from what I have read but I am not sure all the facts are known yet.

If he's not clean I predict that O will ask him to remove himself from the process.

Got any more predictions?

cmac2012 · #62 01-30-2009, 12:29 AM

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That is correct. It should be utterly irrelevant but instead it's the single biggest reason he became the nominee. Thus he's an affirmative action beneficiary, and hopefully a competent one.

I disagree. Jackson and Sharpton somehow escaped the inevitability of receiving the nomination, not to mention the election, in spite of the big bump that comes from being black.

Obama's speech in '04 caught people's attention because it sounded like a way more sincere expression of non-partisanry than we've become accustomed to hearing.

If I didn't trust the guy's intellect and inclinations, no way would I have supported him just cuz of blackness.

cmac2012 · #63 01-30-2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MS Fowler

I agree that the huge bonuses paid to CEOs who mishandle their companies is absurd, but it is not a place for government action. It is private industry, and the mechanism for correcting it needs to stay with private industry. I would think that some sort of class action suit by the stock holders should be able to overthrow the Board and eliminate these sweet heart agreements. I would expect that there are grounds for civil suit for mishandling their fiduciary responsibilities.
These have not happened, and maybe they can't. But I would like to see the attempt before I cede power to the government over compensation of executives etc.

Getting the govt. involved in executive compensation would be dicey and the only reason it should be on the table at all is due to the enormous amount of public funds that are being handed over to these guys. Paulsen always put on a sincere worried and concerned look on his face, but his original 3 page directive on the matter including the 'no oversight' provision makes me wonder.

The culture of profiteering corruption among these guys is so entrenched, I'm not sure the shareholders are going to be able to root it out.

It looks to me like the ultimate and logical expression of Ayn Randism (or Ayn Randiness, take your pick), the Virtue of Selfishness and all.

cmac2012 · #64 01-30-2009, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Bell

Got any more predictions?

I got one: Chris Bell will continue to vie for the Cynical Man of the Year prize for the forseeable future.

I'm trying to think if I heard any outrage from you when the news of a Green Beret getting electrocuted in his shower in Iraq came out. Who was the contractor in charge of that job? Why is it that several incidents, almost identical, took place a few years previous, and yet it happened again? Who is responsible? How did such an incompetent contractor get the job?

And then there was the building (a police station IIRC) "built" in Iraq that ended up being useless owing to massive flaws, sewage seaping from the ceilings being just one of many.

How much taxpayer money went to these affairs? Who was the incompetent individual in our govt. who doled out that money with such poor results?

Botnst · #65 01-30-2009, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

I got one: Chris Bell will continue to vie for the Cynical Man of the Year prize for the forseeable future.

I'm trying to think if I heard any outrage from you when the news of a Green Beret getting electrocuted in his shower in Iraq came out. Who was the contractor in charge of that job? Why is it that several incidents, almost identical, took place a few years previous, and yet it happened again? Who is responsible? How did such an incompetent contractor get the job?

And then there was the building (a police station IIRC) "built" in Iraq that ended up being useless owing to massive flaws, sewage seaping from the ceilings being just one of many.

How much taxpayer money went to these affairs? Who was the incompetent individual in our govt. who doled out that money with such poor results?

Shocking.

t walgamuth · #66 01-30-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Bell

Got any more predictions?

So you know the whole story and have concluded he's not clean?

If I knew the whole story I might agree with you.....or not.

cmac2012 · #67 01-30-2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Shocking.

Yeah, it's a story worthy of flippancy all right. Some guy claiming to be a Green Beret (buncha clowns anyway) steps into a shower after a hard day at work, and dies a slow painful death because some fool somewhere thought that using AC to power a pump in a shower was a good idea. Low voltage DC would be much safer, especially if it's a job being overseen by Kellogg, Brown, and Root overseen by Halliburton -- a job being put into place in the midst of an absolutely necessary war, built by some guy who assured KBR that he knew what he was doing, just like the contractors on the previous installations where the same GDed thing happened.

Are you kidding me? You think this story is worthy of mirthful dismissal? What kind of ivory tower freak are you anyway?

LUVMBDiesels · #68 01-30-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

Yeah, it's a story worthy of flippancy all right. Some guy claiming to be a Green Beret (buncha clowns anyway) steps into a shower after a hard day at work, and dies a slow painful death because some fool somewhere thought that using AC to power a pump in a shower was a good idea. Low voltage DC would be much safer, especially if it's a job being overseen by Kellogg, Brown, and Root overseen by Halliburton -- a job being put into place in the midst of an absolutely necessary war, built by some guy who assured KBR that he knew what he was doing, just like the contractors on the previous installations where the same GDed thing happened.

Are you kidding me? You think this story is worthy of mirthful dismissal? What kind of ivory tower freak are you anyway?

I absolutely agree with you on this... The guys from KBR should never have allowed this. However, it did not say if they built the housing, just that they inspected it. Either way, they should have fixed it immediately.

Botnst · #69 01-30-2009, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

Yeah, it's a story worthy of flippancy all right. Some guy claiming to be a Green Beret (buncha clowns anyway) steps into a shower after a hard day at work, and dies a slow painful death because some fool somewhere thought that using AC to power a pump in a shower was a good idea. Low voltage DC would be much safer, especially if it's a job being overseen by Kellogg, Brown, and Root overseen by Halliburton -- a job being put into place in the midst of an absolutely necessary war, built by some guy who assured KBR that he knew what he was doing, just like the contractors on the previous installations where the same GDed thing happened.

Are you kidding me? You think this story is worthy of mirthful dismissal? What kind of ivory tower freak are you anyway?

Of course, civilian contractors on domestic jobs and city inspectors never f**k-up, right?

You been passing the bong with some goofball whose name I dare not mention?

Palangi · #70 01-30-2009, 11:53 PM

Jeez, another one.......

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28940417/

I pay my taxes..... Why don't these guys???

Botnst · #71 01-30-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Palangi

Jeez, another one.......

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28940417/

I pay my taxes..... Why don't these guys???

Taxes are for you little people. Quite whining and get back to work.

Palangi · #72 01-31-2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Taxes are for you little people. Quite whining and get back to work.

More truth than fiction........

Honus · #73 01-31-2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Botnst

Taxes are for you little people. Quite whining and get back to work.

Sad but apparently true. It sucks.

Chris Bell · #74 01-31-2009, 12:28 AM

Whoopsee
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090131/ap_on_go_pr_wh/daschle_taxes

Quick, quick..somebody mention Haliburton, Bush,Cheney, Rice, Blackwater to change the subject. Oh dear god won't somebody change the subject.

There..I did it for ya Ckrack

Honus · #75 01-31-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Bell

Whoopsee
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090131/ap_on_go_pr_wh/daschle_taxes

Quick, quick..somebody mention Haliburton, Bush,Cheney, Rice, Blackwater to change the subject. Oh dear god won't somebody change the subject.

There..I did it for ya Ckrack

You posted the same story as the other guy. How is that changing the subject?