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John Doe 01-29-2009 10:12 AM

Bye bye Blackwater
 
Looks like the Iraqi govt. is allowing Blacwater's operatiing license to expire b/c the Iraqi investigation of that incident last year indicated misconduct and excessive force. For the record, I'm ok with Blackwater and glad they exist. However, I think this is a classic example of how things should work, and hope its an indication that we have a confidence level in their govt. to GTFO;)

Dee8go 01-29-2009 10:17 AM

Hopefully, their govt will rise to the occassion and find some way to get along without us, so Obama can make good on his promise to get us out of there.

Txjake 01-29-2009 10:20 AM

I predict we will have a military presence in Iraq for a long time....Blackwater is a good group, they just need to get a contract snuffing Somalia pirates now.....

John Doe 01-29-2009 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Txjake (Post 2094150)
I predict we will have a military presence in Iraq for a long time....Blackwater is a good group, they just need to get a contract snuffing Somalia pirates now.....

Small Okinawa style occupado is ok by me. Just bring enough back to stop the budgetary hemorrhage and all the bandwagon hippie *****ing.

I recently saw part of Erik's pitch to an international shipping consortium (on TV). He has or is going to have some of those contracts already. Several others had previously been let.

Jim B. 01-29-2009 10:25 AM

I believe I read someplace that there is some connection between the owner of Blackwater's mother and individuals in the previous administration.


It would not surprise me if it was true because war profiteers like them usually are well connected to get the contract they do.

The fact that they commit war crimes comes as no paricular surprise either, because under the rubric of the previous administration they are protected from accountability and punishment if they do, in virtually every single case.


Their existence parallel to the US troops in Iraq must be particularly grating to the US troops, (to say nothing of the Iraqis) if for no other reason they are SO much more highly paid for being over there in that hellhole than our troops are.

Txjake 01-29-2009 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim B. (Post 2094161)
I believe I read someplace that there is some connection between the owner of Blackwater's mother and individuals in the previous administration.


It would not surprise me if it was true because war profiteers like them usually are well connected to get the contract they do.

The fact that they commit war crimes comes as no paricular surprise either, because under the rubric of the previous administration they are protected from accountability and punishment if they do, in virtually every single case.


Their existence parallel to the US troops in Iraq must be particularly grating if for no other reason they are SO much highly paid for being over there in that hellhole.

:rolleyes:

R Leo 01-29-2009 10:30 AM

Can't get over what that name means in the plumbing biz.

John Doe 01-29-2009 10:30 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abtan_v._Blackwater

John Doe 01-29-2009 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Leo (Post 2094169)
Can't get over what blackwater means in the plumbing biz.


Used to make nightsoil:D

Dee8go 01-29-2009 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Txjake (Post 2094150)
I predict we will have a military presence in Iraq for a long time....Blackwater is a good group, they just need to get a contract snuffing Somalia pirates now.....

Now THAT sounds like a capital idea!

Txjake 01-29-2009 10:33 AM

Seems like William Kunstler has taken this on as a cause. Like this old communist shill has any credibility......:rolleyes:


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Type: Non-profit
Founded: July 1966 by Arthur Kinoy, William Kunstler, Ben Smith and Morton Stavis
Location: New York City, New York, U.S.
Key people: Michael Ratner, President: Jules Lobel, Alex Rosenberg and Peter Weiss, Vice-Presidents; Vincent Warren, Executive Director
Fields: Defending and promoting civil rights, constitutional rights, racial, economic, gender and social justice, international law and accountability. Defending against illegal detentions, illegal surveillance and attacks on dissent, mass incarceration, human rights abuse and government abuse of power
Services: Advocacy, legal representation, public education
Website: CCRJustice.org
The Center for Constitutional Rights[1] (CCR) is a non-profit legal advocacy organization based in New York City, New York, U.S., co-founded in 1966 by self-described "radical lawyer" William Kunstler. In recent years, CCR has been frequently in the news for its civil liberties and human rights litigation and activism, as well as its legal assistance to the people imprisoned in the Guantanamo Bay detainment camp.

Botnst 01-29-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by John Doe (Post 2094133)
Looks like the Iraqi govt. is allowing Blacwater's operatiing license to expire b/c the Iraqi investigation of that incident last year indicated misconduct and excessive force. For the record, I'm ok with Blackwater and glad they exist. However, I think this is a classic example of how things should work, and hope its an indication that we have a confidence level in their govt. to GTFO;)

Amen.

Medmech 01-29-2009 11:09 AM

Aside from poaching the ranks of USSF I don't have a problem with Blackwater, its damn good the Iraqi's are getting it together. I am not fond of a PMC that is too big either but I think BW will do a fine job is Africa because that's where the money is going to be in the next 10 years.

Maybe Executive Outcomes will reopen, now THAT'S a PMC they make BW look like alter boys.

jlomon 01-29-2009 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Txjake (Post 2094150)
I predict we will have a military presence in Iraq for a long time....Blackwater is a good group, they just need to get a contract snuffing Somalia pirates now.....

That can't come soon enough. Somali pirates have taken another oil tanker


http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/579044

Medmech 01-29-2009 12:52 PM

There is 8 Navy's patrolling the waters right now, from what I'm told the only way to curtail the piracy at this point is attacks on the pirate bases, that'd be some good $hit IMO. blow the f-ers to kingdom come.


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