Bye bye Blackwater
 

Looks like the Iraqi govt. is allowing Blacwater's operatiing license to expire b/c the Iraqi investigation of that incident last year indicated misconduct and excessive force. For the record, I'm ok with Blackwater and glad they exist. However, I think this is a classic example of how things should work, and hope its an indication that we have a confidence level in their govt. to GTFO;)

Hopefully, their govt will rise to the occassion and find some way to get along without us, so Obama can make good on his promise to get us out of there.

I predict we will have a military presence in Iraq for a long time....Blackwater is a good group, they just need to get a contract snuffing Somalia pirates now.....

Small Okinawa style occupado is ok by me. Just bring enough back to stop the budgetary hemorrhage and all the bandwagon hippie *****ing.

I recently saw part of Erik's pitch to an international shipping consortium (on TV). He has or is going to have some of those contracts already. Several others had previously been let.

I believe I read someplace that there is some connection between the owner of Blackwater's mother and individuals in the previous administration.


It would not surprise me if it was true because war profiteers like them usually are well connected to get the contract they do.

The fact that they commit war crimes comes as no paricular surprise either, because under the rubric of the previous administration they are protected from accountability and punishment if they do, in virtually every single case.


Their existence parallel to the US troops in Iraq must be particularly grating to the US troops, (to say nothing of the Iraqis) if for no other reason they are SO much more highly paid for being over there in that hellhole than our troops are.

:rolleyes:

Can't get over what that name means in the plumbing biz.

Used to make nightsoil:D

Now THAT sounds like a capital idea!

Seems like William Kunstler has taken this on as a cause. Like this old communist shill has any credibility......:rolleyes:


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Type: Non-profit
Founded: July 1966 by Arthur Kinoy, William Kunstler, Ben Smith and Morton Stavis
Location: New York City, New York, U.S.
Key people: Michael Ratner, President: Jules Lobel, Alex Rosenberg and Peter Weiss, Vice-Presidents; Vincent Warren, Executive Director
Fields: Defending and promoting civil rights, constitutional rights, racial, economic, gender and social justice, international law and accountability. Defending against illegal detentions, illegal surveillance and attacks on dissent, mass incarceration, human rights abuse and government abuse of power
Services: Advocacy, legal representation, public education
Website: CCRJustice.org
The Center for Constitutional Rights[1] (CCR) is a non-profit legal advocacy organization based in New York City, New York, U.S., co-founded in 1966 by self-described "radical lawyer" William Kunstler. In recent years, CCR has been frequently in the news for its civil liberties and human rights litigation and activism, as well as its legal assistance to the people imprisoned in the Guantanamo Bay detainment camp.

Amen.

Aside from poaching the ranks of USSF I don't have a problem with Blackwater, its damn good the Iraqi's are getting it together. I am not fond of a PMC that is too big either but I think BW will do a fine job is Africa because that's where the money is going to be in the next 10 years.

Maybe Executive Outcomes will reopen, now THAT'S a PMC they make BW look like alter boys.

That can't come soon enough. Somali pirates have taken another oil tanker


http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/579044

There is 8 Navy's patrolling the waters right now, from what I'm told the only way to curtail the piracy at this point is attacks on the pirate bases, that'd be some good $hit IMO. blow the f-ers to kingdom come.

[quote=Txjake;2094175]Seems like William Kunstler has taken this on as a cause. Like this old communist shill has any credibility......:rolleyes:

I thought he died...:confused: Well, maybe he's still workin anyway :eek:

Howie is right, time to take the fight to the pirates home base....AC-130? Ranger Regiment? French Foreign Legion?

Global Hawks should be able to get the job done. Take out the boats at anchor and you turn your pirates into landlubbers.

Belgians and Swedes. Maybe a few French (not Legionnaires). Oh yeah, more Russians. Let them figure it out.

W.w.o.d?

How about allowing the shipping companies to hire a private army and take care of it themselves?

I would think that the insurance companies would encourage it.

Isn't there a Russian vessel with SF floating around down there? Wonder where they're getting resupplied.

Airlifts and ships from Djibouti.

The problem with the PMC is the UN banned the use of them, I'm still trying to figure out how we are getting away with the use of PMC's in Iraq the way we are using them.

I have been advicating a blow the $hit out of them policy since the beginning. Maybe a C130 can $hit a MOAB over them.:D

Were on the security council, you can get away with alot when your in charge.

William Kunstler died almost 14 years ago. Here's his wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kunstler

He was a great American, IMHO.

Lawyers from the organization he co-founded in 1966, the Center for Constitutional Rights, represent plaintiffs in that lawsuit, that's how his name made it into that report.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kunstler

We are not your enemy. We want to be your friends.
I have family members who are Somali pirates.

Now that's funny rat thar!

What, you haven't read how our troops resent the way Blackwater guys sneer at them?

I can see a need for Blackwater type outfits but those guys have pulled some real $h!t in Iraq.

Almost as funny as the Dubber's approach: treating Muslims as though they are second class citizens in spite of his PR attempts to claim otherwise.

There you go.

Agreed 100% with that idea.:headshot:

http://http://www.metacafe.com/watch/835058/aegis_video/


This is a video clip of Blackwater. A private NO BID CONTRACT army of so called Christians. Here in this clip you will see them shooting at people for sport. OUR TROOPS have been blamed for this and it was NOT the troops. IT WAS BLACKWATER! Yes folks you are seeing right. They are killing people for sport and are under NO law. Even our moronic congress can't get answers as to who overlooks these savages! PLEASE research and spread the word because their home base is right here in America and they are growing. They are the 'CHRISTIANS' who rescued the helpless poor people in NEW ORLEANS after Katrina hit by GUNPOINT. You might come face to face with them someday for having an opinion. It could be your last day on earth. Put all the pieces together and you will see that Bush is the most dangerous man on earth! They have been funded by Republicans as well as Christian groups including JAMES DOBSON!
BLACKWATER charges the American taxpayer $$$00 per soldier per day!That is far more than our troops (who are dying for Bush's corporate buddies) make. PLEASE watch this video and pass it on.

Wrong again, that was Aegis which is a British firm and they were quickly terminated.

I know it sounds like a broken record but you should not be so manic and analyze the facts before you post. I think the link you provided titled Aegis Video would have tipped you off.

It sounds like Blackwater was pretty out of control too from what I have read.

Just because things are better in Iraq now is not necessarily a sign things will stay that way when we pull out. These people are not stupid. All they have to do is lie low until we pull out. They are very patient. Years are like days to them.

The fighters have nothing better to do than fight.

Maybe Cheney helped Blackwater disguise the video to appear as though it were Aegis. Didja ever think of that? Huh?

I just posted the link and cut and copied the text.
If you would look for a second you could tell that.

You posted this:
With that video, which is not Blackwater. To put it short you are wrong. In a thread about Blackwater, in the context of Blackwater and never mentioned Aegis. And ask a few people that were recued by BW in NOLA how they felt about their rescue.

With Scottish accents dubbed in.

Mercedes Benz 560SEL crashed.
 

If you look carefully at this clip from 1:06 - 1:28 you can see that a 560SEL crashed into a 1992 Chevrolet Caprice (Called the "Dolphin" in Iraq because of what it looks like) - an Iraqi taxicab (white vehicle with front fenders and rear quarters painted vermillion, per Iraqi taxi color scheme)

Geeessshhh

Click the link.
See the text.

Its not my video or text.
Go tell the author, I just gave the link.

Why must you make every post a personal attack upon me...
Quit being such a little troll girl.
Go back and try to be the Macho Military Man somewhere else, cz its gettin really gay dude..

If you're going to post something that's not true don't try to disguise it as fact.

Take that to mommy.

Nepitism,(sp) say it isn't so!

That danged Cheney is devious!

Skull & Bones done it....Bush, et al.....:rolleyes:

nobody is picking on you, 'cept you came out with something you didnt double check...you sound like the troll..."dude" Howi aint leaving and neither is anyone else just because you soiled your diaper....

How was it he couldn't do the same with the Blackwater deaths owing to their incompetence -- insufficient personnel -- in the Fallujah killings, burning, and street dragging, that led to to the devotion of major Govt. assets of blood and treasure in the subsequent savaging(s) of Fallujah?

Your argument is rational. What burns my ass is thats a god damn horrible death for a Ranger. I have no doubt that during that attack the detail wished that they had the protection of their comrades.

Must you be so reasonable?

It would be hard to just sit still with something like that particularly if you knew the guy, served with him, or came from the same brotherhood.

Blackwater kicked out Iraq? The world is becoming a better place.

He was one of the greatest trial advocates that ever lived love him or hate him--but getting into that discussion here would be sort of like a golfer bringing up the subject of lob wedge lofts on a fly tying forum.