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Mistress 03-30-2009 11:57 AM

The Gun Thread
 
What criteria do you think should be put in place to purchase /own a gun and what is your favorite gun? Please feel free to take this thread wherever you like.

pj67coll 03-30-2009 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 2154654)
What criteria do you think should be put in place to purchase /own a gun and what is your favorite gun? Please feel free to take this thread wherever you like.

You're kidding right?

Assuming not. No restrictions whatever on law abiding citizens.
Criminals however should not be allowed near one.
Personal favourite? Don't really have such given different guns for different applications. But probably overall the Mauser K98 for me.

- Peter.

helpplease 03-30-2009 12:01 PM

I think no prior criminal record would be a good place to start. I also think a waiting period is a good thing. Favorite gun(s) hmmmmm a heavily modded out AR-15 is a great gun with a drum clip and a scope man sweet. A nice .45 is also a thing of beauty. But personal favorite is a russian sniper rifle from WW2 shot that and man fell in love also a BAR .50 is a great gun.

PaulC 03-30-2009 12:05 PM

Ownership evaluation criteria should include the provision of a recent certified copy of a Stanford-Binet IQ test showing a three-digit score, and a graduation certificate from the Dick Cheney School of Firearms Safety. Points should be deducted if the applicant bears a striking resemblence to Lee Harvey Oswald.

Jim B. 03-30-2009 12:06 PM

I was in the Gun Library at Cabela's in Boomtown (outside of Reno, NV,) yesterday.

When I asked to see a Desert Eagle, they laughed and said they didn't have any, they sell really fast.


http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/community/gun/gun-home.jsp?hierarchyId=10468&cm_re=LeftNav_Other*GunLibrary*032309

PaulC 03-30-2009 12:10 PM

That's because the Desert Eagle is the perfect concealed-carry firearm.

Jim B. 03-30-2009 12:26 PM

Nevada is different than California for sure.
 
Ha ha yeah, on the front door of the Gold Dust West Casino in Reno, when I was about to go in, there was this BIG big sign that said that even if you had a CCW Permit, you still couldn't carry, if you went inside the Casino.

diametricalbenz 03-30-2009 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 2154654)
What criteria do you think should be put in place to purchase /own a gun and what is your favorite gun? Please feel free to take this thread wherever you like.

I think owners should have psych tests.

Once they pass it they should be able to own Paris Guns, Railguns, HARP guns, industrial pipelines (cough....supergun) :D

...
FS: 400m of 31in diameter pipeline capable of ??,???psi static pressure - Make an offer ;)

JollyRoger 03-30-2009 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 2154654)
What criteria do you think should be put in place to purchase /own a gun and what is your favorite gun? Please feel free to take this thread wherever you like.


I think a "well regulated militia" means that guns need to be treated like cars, another deadly weapon that is well regulated and available to the militia in case of war. I think they should be registered, licensed and insured. Dope gangs legally carrying semi-automatic assault rifles they purchased at a gun show are not a "well regulated militia", neither is some nut who walks into a nursing home and kills eight old people for a laugh.

My favorite rifle was my grand-dad's 30-40 Krag, converted in his wood shop into a deer rifle. That thing would knock down a barn, and many a deer ended up on the kitchen table as a result of his fine down-home machine work. My favorite pistol is my Browning Hi-power made back in Belgium in the 70's in fact I like it so much I sleep with it every night, my favorite shotgun is the Beretta over/under my dad hunts duck with, one of his prized possesions that will one sad day be mine.

Medmech 03-30-2009 02:02 PM

I have:
Daisy Red Ryder BB gun (Mice)
Crosman 760 Squirrels rabbits
Marlin .22 lever action for big game and home defense.

Dee8go 03-30-2009 02:04 PM

A Purdy shotgun is pretty schweet.

JollyRoger 03-30-2009 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howitzer (Post 2154768)
I have:
Daisy Red Ryder BB gun (Mice)
Crosman 760 Squirrels rabbits
Marlin .22 lever action for big game and home defense.

What do you use for an assault rife, a long bow or a sword?

Medmech 03-30-2009 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JollyRoger (Post 2154778)
What do you use for an assault rife, a long bow or a sword?

My left and right

Dee8go 03-30-2009 02:12 PM

Baseball bat

PaulC 03-30-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howitzer (Post 2154768)
I have:
Daisy Red Ryder BB gun (Mice)
Crosman 760 Squirrels rabbits
Marlin .22 lever action for big game and home defense.

Oh boy, another one of those crazy gun-huggers...

Medmech 03-30-2009 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulC (Post 2154782)
Oh boy, another one of those crazy gun-huggers...

Guns are scary

pj67coll 03-30-2009 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JollyRoger (Post 2154754)
I think a "well regulated militia" means that guns need to be treated like cars, another deadly weapon that is well regulated and available to the militia in case of war.

Civil war. The milita were not intended for action against a foreign aggressor but as a standing force of action against the nations own government. The freedom of which the 2nd speaks is not from foreign invasion from from domestic oppression.

- Peter.

cmbdiesel 03-30-2009 02:43 PM

I vote for enforcing the laws we already have. Eliminating the sale of assault weapons. (If you want one, you should be licensed) Severe penalties for illegal sales or importing of firearms. Get rid of the large magazines, there is no earthly reason for magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. If your record has ANY violent crimes, crimes against children, gang related crime, drug related crime, gun related crime, sex related crime, YOU don't get to have a gun.

My favorite - Russian SKS circa 1950 (I have only 10 round clips, destroyed the 30 round bananas)
Favorite handgun - Stainless 357 mag with 8" barrel
Shotgun - really depends on the application, but for home defense the mossburg 500 with riot barrel

JollyRoger 03-30-2009 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pj67coll (Post 2154785)
Civil war. The milita were not intended for action against a foreign aggressor but as a standing force of action against the nations own government. The freedom of which the 2nd speaks is not from foreign invasion from from domestic oppression.

- Peter.

I see no reason a militia could not do both, but I must say, you are very wrong, the primary purpose of the militia in the 18th Century was to repel invaders.

inventor 03-30-2009 04:04 PM

Criteria for owning any fire arm:

1. Must have a DL.
2. Must have a job.
3. Must never have been convicted.
4. One or all of the above
5. If you served in the arm forces non of the above apply.
My 357 Magnum will always make some ones day....:cool::cool::cool:

Mistress 03-30-2009 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Howitzer (Post 2154768)
I have:
Daisy Red Ryder BB gun (Mice)
Crosman 760 Squirrels rabbits
Marlin .22 lever action for big game and home defense.

Do you have the Leg Lamp to go with the BB Gun?

pj67coll 03-30-2009 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JollyRoger (Post 2154824)
I see no reason a militia could not do both, but I must say, you are very wrong, the primary purpose of the militia in the 18th Century was to repel invaders.

No. The 1'st civil war was against the government of King George which was the government of the 13 colonies. The 2'nd was enshrined in order to ensure no future government would ever be able to oppress the citizenry in the way KG's did.

- Peter.

OldPokey 03-30-2009 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 2154808)
I vote for enforcing the laws we already have. Eliminating the sale of assault weapons.

Have you ever tried to purchase a military grade Kalashnikov or M-16? Those are assault rifles, and they are already illegal for anybody but the military and law enforcement to have. The rest of us have to be satisfied with semi automatic rifles that are not assault weapons at all - even if they look like them. Give me a bolt action Winchester Model 70 any day - or should that be regulated too (because it's really just a nicely decked out sniper rifle)?

JollyRoger 03-30-2009 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldPokey (Post 2154896)
Have you ever tried to purchase a military grade Kalashnikov or M-16? Those are assault rifles, and they are already illegal for anybody but the military and law enforcement to have. The rest of us have to be satisfied with semi automatic rifles that are not assault weapons at all - even if they look like them. Give me a bolt action Winchester Model 70 any day - or should that be regulated too (because it's really just a nicely decked out sniper rifle)?

Buy a file, it doesn't take a lot of effort to convert them. That's why they should be more tightly controlled.

cmbdiesel 03-30-2009 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inventor (Post 2154866)
Criteria for owning any fire arm:

1. Must have a DL.
2. Must have a job.
3. Must never have been convicted.
4. One or all of the above
5. If you served in the arm forces non of the above apply.
My 357 Magnum will always make some ones day....:cool::cool::cool:

Maybe your an indigenous person in Alaska, with no possible use for a car, but could use a gun for hunting?

You're a fifth generation farmer in Iowa with no 'job'?

You are a reformed college student who got arrested for underage possession of alcohol?

You were in the armed forces and you just happen to be a violent a55hole?

It's tough to come up with ANY iron clad method of who gets them. Our background check system now works fairly well, but the loopholes need closing.

Dee8go 03-30-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistress (Post 2154874)
Do you have the Leg Lamp to go with the BB Gun?

It just so happens that I have not one, but TWO leg lamps. Alas, no Red Ryder BB gun, though.

SirNik84 03-30-2009 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dee8go (Post 2154915)
It just so happens that I have not one, but TWO leg lamps. Alas, no Red Ryder BB gun, though.

I have a Leg Lamp as well, and I also have no Red Ryder BB gun. based on the replies in this thread, I will not talk about what guns I do have;)

Hatterasguy 03-30-2009 07:40 PM

No restrictions on law abiding citizens.

I want a G36 and P90, but because those rifles scare panty wearing, limp wristed, sissy liberals we can't own the good versions.

I also want the hot five seven rounds for that P90 that are designed to cut through police body armour.

The Swede 03-30-2009 07:46 PM

I was really into guns until my mid-20's. Went to an indoor range with my S&W 586, hacked around with an UZI 9MM (Model B), shot trap, but didn't hunt much. For some reason they don't interest me at all anymore, but I wouldn't mind doing some pheasant hunting again.

Botnst 03-30-2009 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JollyRoger (Post 2154824)
I see no reason a militia could not do both, but I must say, you are very wrong, the primary purpose of the militia in the 18th Century was to repel invaders.

Mostly injuns and lawless honkies.

catmandoo62 03-30-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 2154808)
. Eliminating the sale of assault weapons.

define assault weapon???

Botnst 03-30-2009 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirNik84 (Post 2154988)
I have a Leg Lamp as well, ...

It should be registered. I'll bet more men have gotten in trouble trying to get a little leg than anything else.

Botnst 03-30-2009 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catmandoo62 (Post 2155049)
define assault weapon???

It has a bayonet lug and a big magazine.

Chas H 03-30-2009 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inventor (Post 2154866)
Criteria for owning any fire arm:

1. Must have a DL.
2. Must have a job.
3. Must never have been convicted.
4. One or all of the above
5. If you served in the arm forces non of the above apply.
My 357 Magnum will always make some ones day....:cool::cool::cool:

Those suffering from PTSD due to military service can and have had their guns confiscated and prohibited from buying replacements.

Frank X. Morris 03-30-2009 10:12 PM

Howdy All,
Must be a registerd voter.

cmbdiesel 03-30-2009 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catmandoo62 (Post 2155049)
define assault weapon???

Personal beliefs aside

‘(30) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means--

‘(A) any of the firearms, or copies or duplicates of the firearms in any caliber, known as--

‘(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (all models);


‘(ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil;


‘(iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70);


‘(iv) Colt AR-15;


‘(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC;


‘(vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12;


‘(vii) Steyr AUG;


‘(viii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and


‘(ix) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as (or similar to) the Street Sweeper and Striker 12;



‘(B) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--

‘(i) a folding or telescoping stock;


‘(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;


‘(iii) a bayonet mount;


‘(iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and


‘(v) a grenade launcher;



‘(C) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of--

‘(i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;


‘(ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;


‘(iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;


‘(iv) a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and


‘(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; and



‘(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--

‘(i) a folding or telescoping stock;


‘(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;


‘(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and


‘(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine.’.

Botnst 03-30-2009 10:32 PM

Pistol grips cause crime.

mpolli 03-30-2009 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diametricalbenz (Post 2154732)
FS: 400m of 31in diameter pipeline capable of ??,???psi static pressure - Make an offer ;)

Is that second hand from Saddam? Didn't he have a big gun with those specs?

mpolli 03-30-2009 10:54 PM

Should be like a drivers license:

You should pass a short written test showing basic knowledge of gun laws

You should pass a basic proficiency test, or take a class teaching same.

Botnst 03-30-2009 11:02 PM

How about this: You should be a citizen. You know, like that Constitution thingie.

amosfella 03-31-2009 12:32 AM

I think that it doesn't matter who the person is.... people get sent to joil and have criminal records for not being able to pay for traffic infractions..... Are they criminals??
Favs.... P90, MP5, MP7, AUG, G36, Dragonov, AK47 UZI, Barret 82A1.... Anything precision, or the burps our bullets at a really fast rate...
Remember how they say that when the ordinary citizens give up their guns, only criminals will have guns.... Could the government now be a criminal organization..... Just food for thought.....

cmbdiesel 03-31-2009 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2155241)
Pistol grips cause crime.

Why would you need the extra tactical maneuverability of a pistol grip on a rifle or shotgun? Do the deer in your area come at you from all sides or around corners?
Besides, I didn't invent the definitions, your congressional representatives did.;)
I feel more strongly about the large magazines. Of course if the deer are swarming you, having the pistol grip and the 30 round magazine could save your life.

diametricalbenz 03-31-2009 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 2155030)
No restrictions on law abiding citizens.

And who or what is going to make that distinction?

unkl300d 03-31-2009 12:50 AM

Mistress, well ,well, what a thread!
Alluding to your Paris Gun, I'd suspect that your fav is 'the bigger the better':D

Kinda like why the gals liked Humphry Bogart...

As far as firearms go,
the existing laws are sufficient.

Dang, here in these neck of the woods, if the lawyerz would only prosecute murderers,father rapers and all around bad guys, then gun laws may be perceived as more effective !
Case in point, the Oakland police killer and so many more such cases...

Hey, I like my Colt series 70 Mk4 9mm pistol. The Taurus 9mm (Beretta copy) is a nice shoot.
The Python revolver is a liking also.

Shootin flies with the .22cal ruger is way fun, huh??

Back in the bad ol days of 1960, the street thugs saturday night special that riled the anti-gun crowd was the .22caliber pistol.

Yup. Boy that made them foam at the mouth and call for banning all guns !
look it up in your funkenwagnels !:)

BTW Mistress your avatar is still my fav ! Nice guns !

GregoryV022 03-31-2009 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 2155359)
Why would you need the extra tactical maneuverability of a pistol grip on a rifle or shotgun? Do the deer in your area come at you from all sides or around corners?
Besides, I didn't invent the definitions, your congressional representatives did.

comfort, and they look cool.

let me just say that the few ruin it for the many.


i also think that everyone should have a gun and let natural selection run its course. well not literally, but if everyone had a gun then no one would have an advantage over another. at least it would even the field. but the moment you step over the line, your gun is gone.

two years ago i heard this story of a guy who went on a shooting spree in a law college. except it didn't last that long because one guy had a gun and ended it after only two casualties only one of whom died.

unkl300d 03-31-2009 12:55 AM

grip the gripe
 
p.s. pistol grip on a rifle? maybe the same reason a hammer drill has a handle
besides a 'pistol' grip.:)

SirNik84 03-31-2009 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diametricalbenz (Post 2155361)
And who or what is going to make that distinction?

Skynet

mytmousemalibu 03-31-2009 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unkl300d (Post 2155363)

BTW Mistress your avatar is still my fav ! Nice guns !

Hands down, I concour aswell :D





My take on guns: Current laws have good and bad points, ill leave it at that.

As far as new gun control/limitations,taxes, etc. All BS, if they outlaw guns... I'll be an outlaw...

I like em, ima gun nut/sporter....As many rounds as i can get, large cap. magazines, pistol grips, bayonets, suppressors, full-auto, massive ammo cache, all of it. I have no bad intentions, i assure you. My only prenotion would be self defence, and the above list would not be my self defence choices. I have a nice Taurus PT24/7 PRO, .40S&W and 4 full 15rd mags loaded with Fed/Mil TAP rounds. I happen to like this kind of stuff so naturally, i want it. And just because some dont think i should....makes me want it even more just for spite. When it comes to my constitutional rights (which are NOT outdated) I tend to get my right wing @ss chapped when there trying to be revoked!
Our government has gotten way to big for itself. Its 5-Tons of ***** in a 5Lb bag.

Skippy 03-31-2009 02:50 AM

Restrictions: (Pretty much IAW current law) no felony convictions, no one adjudicated (as in by an actual judge) mentally defective, and no one dishonorably discharged from the military. Also illegal for illegals, but then they shouldn't be here anyway. More stringent restrictions for Class III weapons, but I think new ones should be allowed to those who qualify.

Favorites: After not liking the AR-15/M-16 for several years, I've developed an appreciation for it. I still like the AK-47, though factory sights could be better. I'm also quite fond of large caliber large frame single action revolvers, as well as the M1911 family and most Glocks. I've been thinking that I should acquire a 12-gauge shotgun as that would facilitate my taking up bird hunting, and we have many tasty birds here in Nevada.

Botnst 03-31-2009 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmbdiesel (Post 2155359)
Why would you need the extra tactical maneuverability of a pistol grip on a rifle or shotgun? Do the deer in your area come at you from all sides or around corners?
Besides, I didn't invent the definitions, your congressional representatives did.;)
I feel more strongly about the large magazines. Of course if the deer are swarming you, having the pistol grip and the 30 round magazine could save your life.

The 2nd amendment wasn't written to guarantee the right to hunt deer.

It was all about protecting the individual's household and community from external threats. It is of equal importance to the 1st and all other amendments in the Bill of Rights. So named because of those amendments' restrictions on government's ability to step on the neck of the people.

The 2nd Amendment is a tool for guaranteeing the other amendments in the Bill of Rights.


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