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Fitz 04-08-2009 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete Geither (Post 2163135)
I have heard that he killed most of the top military because he thought they were too much of a killing machine and could not assimilate into his society again.

He killed many of his top generals before the war, in the purge of 1937. After the war he killed or sent to the gulags those that had managed to survive captivity in the German POW camps. Through it all, Hollywood and the New York intellectuals loved Uncle Joe.

JollyRoger 04-08-2009 10:19 AM

They did? Perhaps you can provide some proof. Which intellectual are you referring to? Or perhaps you are like Joe McCarthy, waving some "list" that never gets shown.

pj67coll 04-08-2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete Geither (Post 2163135)
I have heard that he killed most of the top military because he thought they were too much of a killing machine and could not assimilate into his society again.

He killed them off for the simple reason that they were the only threat to his power.

- Peter.

JollyRoger 04-08-2009 12:09 PM

My understanding is that after the war, if anyone was a popular hero of the war, they disappeared because Stalin did not want any competing personality cults going on. Prior to the war, he killed his generals for fear of coups. The Nazis made good use of his paranoia, feeding false information via spies into the information stream that this general or that general was working with the Germans or the British to overthrow Stalin.

Pete Geither 04-08-2009 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger (Post 2163363)
My understanding is that after the war, if anyone was a popular hero of the war, they disappeared because Stalin did not want any competing personality cults going on. Prior to the war, he killed his generals for fear of coups. The Nazis made good use of his paranoia, feeding false information via spies into the information stream that this general or that general was working with the Germans or the British to overthrow Stalin.

Who do you trust,,, who do you trust ?? :uhoh:

Botnst 04-08-2009 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger (Post 2163271)
They did?...

Too easy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Duranty

Fitz 04-08-2009 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRoger (Post 2163271)
They did? Perhaps you can provide some proof. Which intellectual are you referring to? Or perhaps you are like Joe McCarthy, waving some "list" that never gets shown.

Why should you care about New York intellectuals, I thought you were from Texas? Reading Witness by Whitaker Chambers will give you a good overview of Communist activities in the US during that period. It's a great book and and you won't even have to translate it from Latin, although you've already established that you could if you had to.

JollyRoger 04-08-2009 02:08 PM

Well I don't really know it ab ovo usque ad mala after all these years,
but I still find that in omnibus requiem quaesivi, especially on these forums, et nusquam inveni nisi in angulo cum libro, occasionly Ceasar's, just to see if I can still pick a few lacuna out.

JollyRoger 04-08-2009 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Botnst (Post 2163416)

I hate to break it to you Botnst, but the fellow does not seem to be from either New York or Hollywood. Too dumb.


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