If someone tries to stop me from reclining my seat with those things they will have to move. No one has the right to stop a seat from reclining. No one has the right to take up more than one seat unless they pay for it. If you are too fat or your knees hurt buy another seat for your knees or your fat.

Wow.
A mechanical device that prevents you from being able to quickly stow your tray table in case of an emergency. (Gee...Something not mentioned in that “FAA statement”... Airline policy.)

I wonder how fast those things can get a flight cut short and you chucked into jail if you refused to take them off when the flight attendant tells you to.

“But the ad says the FAA states they aren’t illegal.” will get you no where.

Maybe I should take a helicopter.

Or a broom.;)

Or maybe a flight where nobody really cares what you do.

Leave the lav door open...
Throw the divan pillows on the floor...
Set your own cabin temperature...
Use the cell phone any time ya want...
Bring your own food and drinks...
Don't ever wear a seat belt...
Leg room isn't ever an issue...
The seats lay all the way back flat...
There's 110V ac available...

Something more like this:

Now you're talkin'!!! How much from Hartford to Telluride?

Cutting short the flight...........doubtful.

Escorted to jail for interfering with a flight crew.........definitely.

Agreed.
You have to be a real jackass cut a flight short.

Lucky for us.
We can just grab a mask...Dial the cabin altitude up... And put everyone to sleep. :D

Ask Shelby next time she's on.

If you dial it up to 15K, how long do they have...........??

Can you leave it at 15K indefinitely??

Will 15k put you down? I've climbed 14k mountains, and felt fine. Even camped at 12.5.

It's strictly dependent on the individual. He might even go higher to ensure a quick demise..........but, likely won't leave it there.

Yep.
My brother lives up pretty high in CO. He can sit through 18-20 damn near all day.:rolleyes:


The only times I’ve personally had to do that, were with a college football team coaching staff (No. I won’t say who.), and a couple of young pop bands (imagine that.).

On all occasions. There was quite a bit of alcohol (and who knows what else) involved as well.

Normally. A quick climb to 15 will certainly calm anyone down if they’re being really rowdy. Add “drunk” into the formula, and they’re out. Then we’ll drop them back to 8 or so.

If you’re in good shape, and just sitting there, 15 really wont do a thing to you. A bit depends on the climb rate though.

But if I want you to sleep… You’re going to sleep. :D

Do you ever need to go to 20K...........very briefly?

First, the clips come off fast, so there's no safety issue, even in "an emergency." Second, as for following crew commands, that's always a good rule.

But that’s only in your mind. They don’t care what’s going on in your mind.

It doesn’t matter how fast you think you can get them off.
You do not (ever) get to determine what is or isn’t a safety issue.
If they think you can get the tray table up faster without them on there...You loose. No matter what you think.

Never think that you know exactly what’s going to play out in “an emergency”.
Nobody really knows the chain of events. You can go over it in your head a zillion times. Even practice it a zillion times. You’ll be better prepared by far. But things still will not go exactly as you think.

It’s easy to sit there and think they are not a safety issue.
But here’s how it plays out (using your thoughts) for the cabin crew:

Ok a little clear air turbulence. I need to get this tray table up. I also need to get my seat belt back on. No big deal. I’ll do the tray table first. Oops, I have to put this book/food/drink/laptop/paper/whatever some place first. Second hit of turbulence and on comes the fasten seatbelt light. You glance up at it. You reach for the table locks that you know you can get off quickly, and the third hit of clear air turbulence just busted your ribs with a tray table. Everyone else however, already had their tables at least going up, and were getting their belts back on if they didn’t already. You on the other hand are doubled over in pain, and are possibly going to become a liability. Not to mention, you just bent the tray table arms and now the connecting flight will be delayed while they fix that mess.

Then there’s the fourth hit of turbulence and… (you don’t want to know)