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Brian Carlton 08-04-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sunedog (Post 2262187)
It's not you. I just need an idiot's guide to fridge repair. You're unknowingly writing one bit by bit. Thanks again to you and all the rest for your support. I'll keep you updated.

There must be a book in print:

Fridges for dummies.:D

sunedog 08-05-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lorainfurniture (Post 2262128)
Sorry, im over-explaining.... The timer is bad if it takes more than 21-25 mins to "click out" of defrost. If it was anything else in the timer, it would start blowing breakers, or not running AT ALL.

The only thing to test on the timer is the time.

At this point, let the ref defrost completely. Plug the ref back in, and let it run for 24hrs.

After the ref reaches temp. start clicking the timer.
the ref WILL shut down within 360 degrees of rotation.
check time
check for heat.
the ref will click out, check time again. 21 mins?
thats the defrost cycle..... its harder to explain than it is to do..

sorry if I was confusing my literary skills are a bit shabby

Update: Understood your intructions explicitly (Thanks!) and followed them. Bad news is that my defrost system seems to be working perfectly. I made it engage defrost mode with a screwdriver, verified the heat bar got hot (red hot -- that was a surprise), and the timer took over and ended the defrost cycle about 24 minutes after it started.

The fridge was running for 24 hours before I did this experiment and my digital thermometer said it was 16 degrees in the freezer when I started.

So do you think I have a problem in the sealed system or compressor? Low freon? The fridge is less than 9 years old.

Interestingly enough, I saw the exact same Fridgedare at Lowes today for $448. It was identical.

Brian Carlton 08-05-2009 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sunedog (Post 2263243)
my digital thermometer said it was 16 degrees in the freezer when I started.

...........and you believe you have a problem..........because??

16 degrees is a bit high but not terrible. What's the setting on the thermostat?

sunedog 08-06-2009 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 2263460)
...........and you believe you have a problem..........because??

Food in freezer was not frozen solid before I started. Beer in fridge was not very cold.

I think you told me two hours after defrosting, put the thermometer directly in front of the fan and it should read 0 degrees.

I thought freezers should be between 0 and 8 degrees. Just checked on the way out the door and freezer was 23 degrees. Perhaps it recently went through defrost cycle.

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 2263460)
..16 degrees is a bit high but not terrible. What's the setting on the thermostat?

Both fridge and freezers are set to "coldest."

Brian Carlton 08-06-2009 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sunedog (Post 2263631)
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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 2263460)
...........and you believe you have a problem..........because??

Food in freezer was not frozen solid before I started. Beer in fridge was not very cold.

I think you told me two hours after defrosting, put the thermometer directly in front of the fan and it should read 0 degrees.

I thought freezers should be between 0 and 8 degrees. Just checked on the way out the door and freezer was 23 degrees. Perhaps it recently went through defrost cycle.



Both fridge and freezers are set to "coldest."


0 degrees is ideal..........I'm not sure that too many of them actually achieve it. 16 is higher than desired, for sure but it will still keep food frozen.

As for setting both freezer and refrigerator on max cold, most fridges divert air from the freezer to cool the refrigerator. Therefore, either the freezer can be the coldest possible or the refrigerator can be the coldest possible..............but not both. You might get some benefits on the refrigerator temperature if you set the freezer in a mid position and leave the fridge on max cold.

In any case, you've exhausted your options with the defroster.........it's doing the proper job. I don't think you've got other options unless the thermostat is NG. Does the compressor run 100% of the time? If it does, the game is over. If it doesn't...........and shuts off periodically (NOT COUNTING THE DEFROST CYCLE)...........a replacement thermostat would cure your issue.

lorainfurniture 08-06-2009 09:43 AM

Brian is right, There is a chance that the thermostat could be bad. If the ref is running non-stop, I would lean more towards a recharge.

I wouldnt get disappointed if you have to recharge the unit, It will probably last another few years.

Just to rule it out, your ref is not near any source of heat? I think I remember you saying its in the garage? they start to lose cooling capacity in 95+ environment.

sunedog 08-06-2009 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by lorainfurniture (Post 2263722)
Brian is right, There is a chance that the thermostat could be bad. If the ref is running non-stop, I would lean more towards a recharge.

I am not 100% sure, but I seem to recall hearing it cycle periodically. I will pay attention to it to see if it does. If it does, I will probably go ahead and replace the thermostat because it is cheap ($13.85 from repairclininc.com).

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Originally Posted by lorainfurniture (Post 2263722)
I wouldnt get disappointed if you have to recharge the unit, It will probably last another few years.

How much would you guess a service call to re-charge would cost?

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Originally Posted by lorainfurniture (Post 2263722)
Just to rule it out, your ref is not near any source of heat? I think I remember you saying its in the garage? they start to lose cooling capacity in 95+ environment.

No, it is in a finished basement (in condiitoned space).

Brian Carlton 08-06-2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sunedog (Post 2263730)
I am not 100% sure, but I seem to recall hearing it cycle periodically.

You'll need to determine if it's cycling periodically in random fashion............or if it entered its defrost cycle. If it's the former, then replace the thermostat.

lorainfurniture 08-06-2009 10:09 AM

If i remember, Im pretty sure your defrost timer is 10hr/21 minute. So, its safe to say it will shut down twice a day for sure.

One thing you can check is the evap coils, with proper charge, the coils should be evenly frosted throughout. Otherwise, it will usually frost up in one spot.

sunedog 08-06-2009 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lorainfurniture (Post 2263756)
One thing you can check is the evap coils, with proper charge, the coils should be evenly frosted throughout. Otherwise, it will usually frost up in one spot.

It was definitely NOT frosted throughout. There was ice only in the top inch or so on both sides.

I'm still curious how much you think a service call to re-charge will cost.

Brian Carlton 08-06-2009 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sunedog (Post 2263915)
It was definitely NOT frosted throughout. There was ice only in the top inch or so on both sides.

I'm still curious how much you think a service call to re-charge will cost.

The cost depends on the location.

Here in ripoff land, the price would probably be close to $200.

Call around to a reputable :rolleyes: repair shop and see what they offer. If you're really fortunate, you might get the price down to $100.

lorainfurniture 08-06-2009 01:08 PM

Right, I was replying to that, and I totally forgot as I was typing.

Depending on who you call, I would say 100-200.

If you have recharged your auto ac before, its the same process, you just have to install your own valve.

You can get away with a 5 dollar piercing valve, and a can of r134, with a gauge. Refers run between 10-18psi on the low side.

DIY: maybe 35 bucks. I can publish my new book: Recharging for dummies :)


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