"Birthers"...what do you think?
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwgzYkTDsmQ

:wallbash:

A study recently came out showing that a large percentage of southern republicans believed that obama wasn't born in the united states. Nothing like a bunch of exremist whack-jobs giving southerns and conservatism a bad image.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/vp/32242576#32242576

For the record, the birth certificate has been released a number of times and is available online

Here's a good one with great comments too: http://www.flickr.com/photos/23580873@N05/3201196892/


I don't know how some Americans can be so incredibly stupid. This issue is deepening the rift between moderates (like me) and conservatives.

Actually they believe the president was born in the US but is not an “American.”

Wouldn't that make him a natural born American?

Edit: The study asks whether people think he was born in the U.S. And yes, I do realize it is an MSNBC report but still.

The 51st State of the Union . . . Denial

Those "birthers" are...
 

Natural-born "Palin/Wurzelbacher "(Joe the Plumber 2012") voters.

The *perfect*:mad: representation of everything the Republican Party now represents.

Personally I am of the opinion that he is not entitled to be President.

IMHO.

This is based on what I have read, etc.
His time in the Phillipines as a child makes his citizenship questionable. IMHO if you denounce your citizenship, you denounce it.
Also what I see as cover up, denials etc by the government.

THAT SAID.
I think removing him at this point would create near civil war, and huge ramifications with US / worldwide relationships.

Again IMHO, I think we would be much better off getting rid of the polititicians. I personally think that, unless he was created as a political puppet, his intentions are/were good. He just found out that the political system is so corrupt he couldn't fight it.
I fear he has given up, but I wish he would continue to stand up and fight it.

ie Remember his pounding the table that any of this Tarp, stimulus etc money that was spent wastefully would be reported publicly and brought up by his team.
I haven't heard a peep out of him or his team about any of the money being spent wastefully.
You and I know it's not all being spent wisely (IMHO the reverse), and I can even provide examples.

Where was he born?

- Peter

Could you elaborate on how his time in the Phillipines, and the dates he resided there, affects his citizenship.
And when did Obama denounce his citizenship?

Kapiolani Hospital for Women & Children, Honolulu, Hawaii

Please, it's easier to have "humble opinions" when they are unfettered by facts or evidence. ;)

I just don't like him, how is that?:D

Care to expand on that, you have approximately 3.5 years to complete that thought. :D

There must be an element of this movement that is just having a psychologically difficult time with the depth and breadth of the "different" President. It's understandable that there would be a backlash to such a historical event.

Exactly, I don't know what there even is to argue. Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinions, and I am iffy on Obama myself, but accusations like these are completely baseless when the documents have been posted again and again, verified, and the simple fact that Obama has a passport is enough to show he is an American citizen.

I am also interested in hearing about when he renounced his citizenship....

'Wasted Election(From republican empire building standpoint)
 

It must be terribly frustrating,to be able to do nothing,other than attempt to
obstruct the orderly flow of government for four years;because you allowed
a nutcase to be placed before the public as a VP candidate.
After 8 years of cheney wrapping himself in Old Glory (and Terrorizing everyone)
and hoodwinking the uneducated,fringe element that had become
the republican party into allowing wholesale graft,corruption and crimes
against the Constitution...

What,self respecting, honest lady or gentleman would associate themselves
with such a group of criminals and idiots?

"TeaPartys", "Birther Movements" [code for republican racist activism],Etc.,Etc., Ad Nauseum...

The Lack of any rational leadership allows all the whacko fringe elements to
further emhamper the skeletal remains of what was once the gop.

To draw a direct parallel to the still (after 65 years) emboldened skin head
movement, the spiritual and political inheritors of the Nazi regime...
Would not be incorrect.

To denounce one's citizenship is quite different than renouncing one's citizenship. I've denounced my country a number of times for being an brutal imperial power unconcerned about the human rights of people in other countries, but I've never renounced my citizenship.
I also don't get why being in the Phillipines has anything to do with one's citizenship.