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Old 10-27-2009, 04:36 PM
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It should absolutely be used. Criminals engaging in high speed chases put the general public as well as LEOs at risk for injury or death. This is not a civil liberties issue. You don't have the right to break the law. You don't have the right to put others at risk while you break the law.

Any police force that doesn't attempt to use this as a safe way to end a high speed pursuit (and lock the occupants in the car in the process) is failing at their duty to protect the public and uphold the law.
That's my general take. High speed chases are serious business. I can relate to why those cops beat the hell out of Rodney King. It would have to be infuriating to watch some sleeze ball endanger that many people just to save his miserable ass.

But the slippery slope thing is worrisome. I mean look at the UK where you can suddenly hear big brother on a loudspeaker telling you to pick up that candy wrapper.

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Old 10-27-2009, 04:43 PM
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Why not leave it up to the owner and the cop in pursuit? First when you buy a car can authorized the vehicle to be monitored, not monitors, go through a check list of what you want G to do or not due. If the car is stolen and not endangering anyone, let it be if you said to or shut the damn thing down if you said so. If the cop says people are at risk, all bets are off and shut it down.

Personally, someone steals my car I want it shut down ASAP. I might be stuck in the trunk or back seat if it's a car jacking.

Not sure I have a problem with the telemetry being used against someone to prove guilt. If you are doing 100mph in a 50 zone and kill someone, why shouldn't the car testify against you?
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All of this is happening already. Toll-road EZ-pass medallions can be used to calculate your average speed between tollbooths.
Here in the Bay Area they call it Fastrak - used only for bridge tolls, no toll roads here - and they have a posted limit of 25 mph through the toll booth. I usually slow down to 40. I've not heard of anyone getting a ticket for going too fast through the booth, and it would have to be easy to do. I mean they have a camera to photograph your license now so they can charge your account if the transponder doesn't click off or ticket you if you're an interloper.

I can only imagine that they don't do it because they want to encourage more people to use Fastrak and if it looked like an easy route to tickets right and left, would sorta be the death of it. I'm amazed at how many people I see waiting in line to pay still, while I zip past them, so I can imagine they don't need any more impediments.
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Old 10-27-2009, 04:46 PM
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No, the cops shouldn't be causing these dangerious chases.

You ever watch the show Cops? Most of the high speed chases are for stupid BS. IE they failed to pull over. You end up having a guy run for half an hour breaking every law in the book and driving the car into a house because he didn't want a ticket.
But then any perp on the lam would only need to speed up and he stays not caught.
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Old 10-27-2009, 05:10 PM
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No, the cops shouldn't be causing these dangerious chases.

You ever watch the show Cops? Most of the high speed chases are for stupid BS. IE they failed to pull over. You end up having a guy run for half an hour breaking every law in the book and driving the car into a house because he didn't want a ticket.
The first time I saw that show I thought it was a parody (always reminds me of the local police where I grew up); given a choice, I think I would rather have the criminals on the streets.
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Old 10-27-2009, 05:38 PM
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But then any perp on the lam would only need to speed up and he stays not caught.
To a point, they get caught eventualy.

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