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11-03-2009, 09:34 AM
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Health care and prayer
Small article in today's paper saying that the health care bill currently in Congress will require that prayer be covered as a health care procedure. Apparently some connection between the provision and the Christian Science church. I can imagine that Benny Hinn is getting set up to process co-pays.
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11-03-2009, 09:42 AM
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I was begining to think that health care may eventually ONLY be prayer . . . A lot of people nowadays don't even have one of those!
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11-03-2009, 07:10 PM
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11-03-2009, 07:24 PM
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Yep, shamans, faith healers, witch doctors should all rejoice along with priests and rabbis of different faiths and religions. This is good news indeed for them.
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11-04-2009, 09:39 AM
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I think it stinks. It's bad enough that religions have tax exempt status as it is, but the idea that an attempt to overhaul healthcare can result in any specific cult being "grandfathered in" in the United States of the 21'st century is pathetic beyond belief. Apparently the damage was already done when the IRS allowed the CS cult to claim their mumbo jumbo as tax deductible or something like that.
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11-04-2009, 10:49 AM
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One study published by Columbia University purporting to show a positive correlation between prayer and healing turned out to be fraudulent.
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/columbia_university_miracle_study_flawed_and_fraud/
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11-04-2009, 11:02 AM
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I have read studies in which faith was shown to have a positive impact upon recovery rates. I would assume that would also include prayer. It didn[t matter as much WHAT the patients had faith IN, only that they had faith in something outside of themselves, as I recall.
It seems to me I read this in a medical journal and the study was done at a big cancer center somewhere in Texas. Unfortunately, I read this nearly 30 years ago when I was a hospital chaplain in Kentucky, so the details are pretty sketchy.
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11-04-2009, 12:53 PM
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How is that a bad thing? Some will learn that it might not work and some will die. Lower population of people who believe in superstition might not be a bad thing. Religion is not a good thing anyways. Way too much twisting for all kinds of nefarious purposes.
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11-05-2009, 09:43 AM
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getting prayer or not (control group) What you are describing is "placebo effect" Anything works as long as the patient believes.
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11-05-2009, 01:04 PM
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I prayer the new healthcare reform won't cost the taxpayers too much.
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11-05-2009, 01:12 PM
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11-05-2009, 01:13 PM
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