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cmac2012 · #91 01-04-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Palangi

Yeppers, I agree that was technically incorrect. The Democrat Vietnam mess was ultimately ended under Ford, not Nixxon.

Ford was one of the few Rrs with any sense and righties castigate him for being a closet libtard. Eisenhower started us on the road in Nam but it was much more than a (D) or (R) issue. It was American commie phobia/witch hunting fever what done it, and a bipartisan effort it was.

In short, yeppers, that's right, you're wrong.

Billybob · #92 01-04-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cmac2012

Eisenhower started us on the road in Nam but it was much more than a (D) or (R) issue. It was American commie phobia/witch hunting fever what done it, and a bipartisan effort it was.

In fact it was Truman who started us on the road when in "September 1950 - Truman sends the Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) Indochina to Vietnam to assist the French. The President claimed they were not sent as combat troops, but to supervise the use of $10 million worth of US military equipment to support the French in their effort to fight the Viet Minh forces."

Palangi · #93 01-04-2010, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Billybob

In fact it was Truman who started us on the road when in "September 1950 - Truman sends the Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) Indochina to Vietnam to assist the French. The President claimed they were not sent as combat troops, but to supervise the use of $10 million worth of US military equipment to support the French in their effort to fight the Viet Minh forces."

Yeppers, and American WW2 surplus weapons were sold to Uncle Ho during the Truman administration......

Not that I think Truman was a bad president. Actually, I think Truman might well have been our best president. Democrats were actual patriotic Americans in those days, unlike now.

Chas H · #94 01-04-2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Palangi

Yeppers, and American WW2 surplus weapons were sold to Uncle Ho during the Truman administration......

Can you give us a site or a cite for that?

Palangi · #95 01-04-2010, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chas H

Can you give us a site or a cite for that?

It was common knowledge that the O.S.S. clandestinly supported the Viet Minh against the Japanese during WW2. You can find numerous references to that in practically any article you can Google up on the Viet Minh. It continued for a short while at the end of WW2. Remember, Uncle Ho was preoccupied with being pissed at the French at that time. He really didn't actively get pissed at the US until the US allied with the French against him, mid to late 1946 approximately.

Remember, the Truman administration began before the end of WW2. The O.S.S. was supporting the Viet Minh during that time.

Google is your friend.....

Chas H · #96 01-04-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Palangi

It was common knowledge that the O.S.S. clandestinly supported the Viet Minh against the Japanese during WW2. You can find numerous references to that in practically any article you can Google up on the Viet Minh. It continued for a short while at the end of WW2. Remember, Uncle Ho was preoccupied with being pissed at the French at that time. He really didn't actively get pissed at the US until the US allied with the French against him, mid to late 1946 approximately.

Remember, the Truman administration began before the end of WW2. The O.S.S. was supporting the Viet Minh during that time.

Google is your friend.....

What you have posted here is pretty much correct, in contrast to your previous post.
We didn't sell arms to Ho, we gave them to him, and it started during FDRs term, not Trumans.

Palangi · #97 01-04-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chas H

What you have posted here is pretty much correct, in contrast to your previous post.
We didn't sell arms to Ho, we gave them to him, and it started during FDRs term, not Trumans.

Whatever.........

Berkeley dude would like us to believe that it all started under Ike. Fact is, it started before that.....

Chas H · #98 01-04-2010, 11:17 PM

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Whatever.........

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Accuracy is your friend.

Palangi · #99 01-04-2010, 11:45 PM

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Accuracy is your friend.

Yeppers, I noticed how quickly you corrected Berkeley Dude.....

Chas H · #**100** 01-04-2010, 11:51 PM

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Yeppers, I noticed how quickly you corrected Berkeley Dude.....

Google is my friend according to you.
But I have challenged and corrected his views of Viet Nam in other threads.
Speaking of patriotism, did you know Reagan and GHW Bush sold arms and WMD to Iraq in the 80's?

Palangi · #**101** 01-05-2010, 12:09 AM

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did you know Reagan and GHW Bush sold arms and WMD to Iraq in the 80's?

True. Are you implying that we should have sold weapons to Iran instead?

#**102** 01-05-2010, 12:11 AM

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True. Are you implying that we should have sold weapons to Iran instead?

Maybe selling weapons to neither side would have been a better plan; but that's crazy talk.

Chas H · #**103** 01-05-2010, 12:14 AM

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True. Are you implying that we should have sold weapons to Iran instead?

No, but traitors in the Reagan adminstration did, or tried to do, just that. Remember Iran-Contra?

cmac2012 · #**104** 01-05-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Billybob

In fact it was Truman who started us on the road when in "September 1950 - Truman sends the Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG) Indochina to Vietnam to assist the French. The President claimed they were not sent as combat troops, but to supervise the use of $10 million worth of US military equipment to support the French in their effort to fight the Viet Minh forces."

Like I said, a bi-partisan effort. No one, (R) or (D) was going to be caught looking soft on communism. If it was such an exclusively (D) effort, why didn't Ike move hard away from it? Or Nixon, instead of escalating it?

JollyRoger · #**105** 01-05-2010, 04:01 PM

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Coming from such a voice as yours with its long track record of reason and tolerance of opposing viewpoints, this defense of liberal royalty scum masquerading as objective journalism such as in the case of Chris Matthews, is amusing if nothing else!

^hyperbolictic nonsense, at it's best, 'Dear Leader'.