I've Got Just **TWO WORDS** for Christmas
 

Bah, HUMBUG

http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/chr...ug-scrooge.jpg

I"am with you on that one. Just another day.

I'm good with that... By the way, atlas shrugged is an excellent book... I'd tell him to shrug too... :D

Ditto

Ditto

It's become such a commericalized ?? it's hardly worth celebrating.

For myself, I celebrate the birth of our Lord. :D

woah, buddy. you don't seem to get the point of this thread. it's HUMBUG, not celebration. get with the program, babe

Its a lot like Thanksgiving just with presents.:D

I know, it would be so horrible if someone took one of your threads off track-

All I have to say is

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!

I wouldn't go so far as to say "bah humbug" (mostly because it's a cliched no-no in my industry) ... but it's hard to really embrace Christmas when you're working Christmas Eve and Christmas. I don't mind it that much, but it gets irritating to watch the whole world around me come to a halt while I still need to get &%^$ done and get to work.:mad: That said, I enjoy picking out gifts for people and watching them unwrap them.

Here's my favorite Christmas song this year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cglLJJ0Czo8
:xmas:
:rifle:

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

DANG you. there shall be no celebration in this thread, no well-wishing, no joy, no happiness, or anything of the sort. don't kill my emotional state of humbugness with your converse merriness

You mean Karl Benz, but his birthday is in November ;)

:D:D:D:D

I like it alright but it is way overblown IMHO.

I've been feeling mighty curmudgeonly lately. But who says a curmudgeon can't enjoy good food and company? BAH! Pass me a drumstick! And another slice of pie.:D

OK Gus, y'all want no celebration, merriment nor holiday joy?

Well now all you maudlin hooples can go **** your own selves and have a dystopically
Disthymic neu jahre!

yessssssssssssssss, now that's more like it

Hey I never said I didn't want merriment or joy ... I just don't want everybody to go to the grocery store at once when I need to make a quick stop there to grab something to eat at my desk at work.:cool: Seriously, though ... I do enjoy the lights, the food, the music, the celebration ... I don't enjoy everyone coming unwound on the roads and in the stores. Some people almost seem to keep score at Christmas, you know?

It's mostly for the kids, for me it's a little time off from working and traveling.

F the blatantly specious crap...few people tighter than me...my wife'll tell ya last time I pulled my wallet outta my britches moths flew out of it.

But the spirit of love, altruism, forgiveness and renewal is priceless.

The Lord is the reason for the season. :rolleyes:

Fortunately most of my friends and family share similar values, so that part of the holidays is always nice. Nonetheless, it's hard to avoid bumping elbows with the crass masses. And it's easy to lose sight of the good stuff when your work doesn't stop for the holidays, at all (and I know there are many in the same boat, or a far worse boat ... like our troops). BUT, I do get to go home early tonight (i.e., before midnight) and I don't have to be in until 4ish tomorrow, so it'll be a nice morning of opening presents.

I'm highly frugal too, but I enjoy buying things for others at the holidays, as well as contributing to charity. I was sad to see fewer Salvation Army kettles out this year ... I think they had trouble getting volunteers.

So you love the Lord also?

Is this in between buying vintage racers and DB7s? :D

I do have to admit that this particular holiday has become nothing more than a way for stores to make lots of money and the ACLU to justify their existance. However, this is my first Christmas in this area, and my second outside the Seattle area in the last decade, and I have to admit that when you get into a predominantly practicing religious area, the whole attitude around Christmas changes. Here, it's a day of celebration and giving. I am not able to provide what I would like for my family, and many local LDS members have stepped in and helped us out. I am working, but I'm getting 24-35hours a week, at a pay rate that would work if I got my usual 44+. The outpouring has been a tremendous help, and nothing is asked in return. That's the spirit of Christmas, not some frantic picking of made-in-China crap, or any of this other commercialization crap.

UGH! guys! this spirit of giving, loving the lord, and spirit of love thing has got to end. obviously that belongs in another thread.

this thread is for the exact OPPOSITE sentiment: spritit of taking, not loving the lord, and spirit of hate.

will anyone ever get it?

It's been acknowledged-

My two words after Italian food Christmas Eve
 

"I'm stuffed"

That is why I am able to.

Not me, personally.
Although I will concede your point for the general population.

You don't need to get dressed up for Christmas dinner, just come as you are :)

ah, so you knew that was a picture of me, did you?

well, to be honest, no. i'm kind of indifferent. but enjoy. i'm glad its all over. for this year.

woah, woah, woah. who said it was all over? armenian christmas is still right around the corner on january 7th...

i do believe it's some sort of eastern orthodox ? tradition, whose adherents include many armenians?

yeah, i think they believe the true date of jesus birth was january 7th.

course, the implied belief is also that christmas is a celebration of the birth of jesus, when in fact it's not--has nothing to do with jesus q. christ at all

I'm Jewish you insensitive clods!





(I'm realy not Jewish, but I figured it would be funny to interject something like that into a thread about Christmas :P )

so was ebenezer scrooge. just for you though, i recommend that you....put on your yamaka, cause it's time for hanukka

http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanag...lerx-large.jpg

???

It's a usurped pagan holiday.

Today is my favorite day of the year. Up until midnight tonight it will be a FULL EFFING YEAR TILL CHRISTMAS!!:D

Armenian? So sell me some Goddamn rugs,Hovaness...

Yes, the date is a usurped pagan holiday.
When you are a banned religion, its good to celebrate when the police are on a drunken binge. The early Christians weren't stupid, you know.)

As to the REASON for the celebration, it has EVERYTHING to do with the birth of Jesus.
There are a great many misconceptions in the conventional knowledge about Christmas that are not found in the Bible itself. The Bible does not have the wise men visiting the stable, nor does it say there were three wise men. Shepherds are NOT in the fields around Bethlehem tending their flocks by night in late December. The time of Jesus birth is unknown, but more likely in the Spring.

I thought that the reason for the celebration was big business, prodding us to buy presents.

In any case, there are very many people who celebrate Christmas, while not believing in the divinity of Christ.

True, on both counts.

Fall is also likely. It only talks about 3 gifts from the wise men. They could have split into gifts as many as 20 for one gift... They visited a house about 2 years after the birth of christ it would seem from my study...
The 25th of December was a celebration of (IIRC) the sun or some old god's festival. To look like they were participating and to avoid persecution while still looking like they were conforming, Christians said that they were celebrating the birth of Christ on that day amongst each other...
Christians really get up tight if you start talking about this to them though... I personally don't like Christmas, but my reasons are personal...
A fish among fishes type of thing as Chairman Mau would say...

Your study seems to me to have reached proper conclusions as to the date and some of the misconceptions. The reason for for the 2 years after the birth is that Herod killed at infants 2 years and under in Bethlehem. Its my guess that the visit of the Magi was probably closer to the birth than 2 years. Heron didn't want the competition, and was a devastatingly thorough depot.

I can understand Herod being a despot, but how can a heron be a depot? :)

The same way you can shop at home despot or deep homo.

christmas is not about the celebration of the birth of jesus, it's about the celebration of the joy of existence. whereas jesus stood for the exact opposite--that existence is a sin (original sin), and that life on earth is not a pursuit of happiness, but the esacape from suffering. metaphysically, that's what jesus stood for--life AFTER death, but not life on this earth. and definitely not celebration of any kind

so I reiterate: bah, HUMBUG

Instead of condemning that which you find anathema in organised religion why not take a page from your own book and celebrate what you enjoy now . The main purpose of life is pleasure, however honestly achieved.

I never could fathom why suffering ennobles one. This is the only life I am likely to experience so why not enjoy it and delight all the senses?