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RichC 05-28-2010 12:09 AM

We dont learn from past mistakes identical oil spills in Canada and Gulf in 1979-2010
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmhxpQEGPo&feature=player_embedded#!

Same oil leak in in Canadian Pipeline.

Same offshore oil rig blowout in Gulf of Mexico.

one in 1979
one in 2010

Same companies, same problems, same failed attempts at stopping the leaks.

We are officially idiots !!!!

RichC 05-28-2010 12:14 AM

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hXrdaztYWC4b-nfTbBOcb6bX0a5gD9FVDIK03



Massive new plume of oil found deep in Gulf of mexico.



NEW ORLEANS — Marine scientists have discovered a massive new plume of what they believe to be oil deep beneath the Gulf of Mexico, stretching 22 miles (35 kilometers) from the leaking wellhead northeast toward Mobile Bay, Alabama.
The discovery by researchers on the University of South Florida College of Marine Science's Weatherbird II vessel is the second significant undersea plume recorded since the Deepwater Horizon exploded on April 20.

Emmerich 05-28-2010 12:24 AM

A leak in a pipeline is not the same as an undersea blowout in 5000 feet of water. Get a clue.



Quote:

Originally Posted by RichC (Post 2475602)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmhxpQEGPo&feature=player_embedded#!

Same oil leak in in Canadian Pipeline.

Same offshore oil rig blowout in Gulf of Mexico.

one in 1979
one in 2010

Same companies, same problems, same failed attempts at stopping the leaks.

We are officially idiots !!!!


Emmerich 05-28-2010 12:25 AM

Maybe you are seeing the light.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichC (Post 2475602)
We are officially idiots !!!!


RichC 05-28-2010 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emmerich (Post 2475606)
A leak in a pipeline is not the same as an undersea blowout in 5000 feet of water. Get a clue.

Get a clue ?, they are two separate events I am talking about !

One is a Pipeline rupture.
The other is an off shore oil rig explosion.

Wow !

Try to comprehend what your reading a little before instantly chastising others.

These same two events have happened simultaneously twice now.
For a total of 4 oil spills.

Once in 1997
Once in 2010

Sorry I dont know how to break it down into mono syllable, three word sentences for you.

Wait, maybe I can.....

1979... Spill baby Spill.
2010... Spill baby Spill.

RichC 05-28-2010 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emmerich (Post 2475608)
Maybe you are seeing the light.

Maybe you need to turn your head away from the flickering flame and look up at the sun.

tonkovich 05-28-2010 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emmerich (Post 2475606)
A leak in a pipeline is not the same as an undersea blowout in 5000 feet of water. Get a clue.

for once, i do agree with you. if he wants to bring up oil rig blowouts, there is always Ixtoc I - which, i grant you was in only 160ft., so somewhat different in logistics, if not in volume.

RichC 05-28-2010 01:17 AM

NASA time lapse satellite images showing the expansion of the Gulf oil spill.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/videogallery/index.html?media_id=14418484

Drill baby drill...

Kill baby Kill :(

RichC 05-28-2010 01:29 AM

New BP Logo.

http://i.imgur.com/P0qkj.jpg

MS Fowler 05-28-2010 07:07 AM

There is no disaster that is too great to be used for crass political means.
Fix the leak.
Then assign blame.
Then modify procedures.

Airplanes crash occasionally. We do not ground all airplanes and stop flying as a knee-jerk reaction. We investigate and change things to make it safer.

dynalow 05-28-2010 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 2475670)
There is no disaster that is too great to be used for crass political means.
Fix the leak.
Then assign blame.
Then modify procedures.

Airplanes crash occasionally. We do not ground all airplanes and stop flying as a knee-jerk reaction. We investigate and change things to make it safer.

I agree with you and T. Boone. And can someone throw Carville a valium or six. Now. (I'm sure the White House would secretly agree with me.;):cool:)

Jim B. 05-28-2010 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichC (Post 2475602)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHmhxpQEGPo&feature=player_embedded#!

Same oil leak in in Canadian Pipeline.

Same offshore oil rig blowout in Gulf of Mexico.

one in 1979
one in 2010

Same companies, same problems, same failed attempts at stopping the leaks.

We are officially idiots

Only to the extent we allow the Corporate greedheads to evade and escape PERSONALLY their responsibility for this. AGAIN !!!!


Their personal fortunes should be confiscated and all of it spent spent on restitution while they are jailed in GENERAL POPULATION of maximum security prisons serving the maximum criminal term.

Maximizing shareholder and investor profits need to take a subordinate position to the public good, in such cases.

Betcha we'd see some real loud howling about prison reform as a by product of this, too.

I have no doubt that Republican senators are being bribed this very minute by oil company lobbyists to make sure their liability is minimalised for this.

Jim B. 05-28-2010 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emmerich (Post 2475606)
A leak in a pipeline is not the same as an undersea blowout in 5000 feet of water. Get a clue.

Spoken like ONLY some typical Dallas Texas oil man would speak.

dynalow 05-28-2010 12:57 PM

Left out of that clip was Paul Harvey's page 2. The rest of the story? As in, how much environmental damage was done? How many miles of coastline were damaged? Who paid the cleanup costs? Were any fisheries closed? How long did it take for the effects of the 79 damage to neutralize?

I might be mistaken, but I don't recall that spill reaching the gulf stream and fouling up Atlantic coastal waters.

At 4:16 the anchor says this was a "Mexican" spill. Operation Sombrero. Mexicans are officially idiots too???:confused:

RichC 05-28-2010 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MS Fowler (Post 2475670)
There is no disaster that is too great to be used for crass political means.

Drill baby drill
Quote:

Fix the leak.
Then assign blame.
Then modify procedures.
Airplanes crash occasionally. We do not ground all airplanes and stop flying as a knee-jerk reaction. We investigate and change things to make it safer.


Plane wrecks aren't usually considered an environmental disaster.

Oil spills are.

The two things aren't even within the same spectrum of events.
I have yet to hear a plane crash be called a national disaster.

And the point of this thread is that it keeps happening over and over again.
No one is "modifying procedures"

Your right wing propaganda is sickening !
Do you support oil spills ???

Just exactly what pundit did you hear this drivel from ??


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